Yamaha CD-S2000 - Page 2

Well, a CD-S2000 owner over at audio asylum confirmed the "click with SACDs" issue: Bad news

Too bad, I was really starting to become interested in this player.

I've seen the CD-S1000 silver here in a Media-Market in holland and it sells for 899 Euro. Since I don't have any balanced equipment (but do have the AT-H3000 with digital input AND wooden sides ) and I thought it would be good enough. Couldn't listen to it - it's not exactly a high-class store where you can do that at ease. But then I saw a CD/SACD player in there for 180 euro (I think it was a Pioneer) and I gave myself a cooling down period without buying...

the clicks with SACD's issue was resolved with firmware update
puresuperaudio.blogspot.com: Recommended Super Audio CD player: Yamaha CD-S2000

It does look just like my CA-600 which is from the late 70's. The logo placement is the same as is the power switch and the front panel size/material/printing.

Yesterday I tried the CD-S2000 and the CD-S1000 in a shop. They both sounded exactly the same to me. And since I have no balanced output equipment I got* the S1000.

And I know there was talk of hearing "bad" recordings as unpleasant. But with an album I thought until now was a good recording I heared something I can only describe as unpleasant presure (static). Thing is - I never heared it before. And it is not constantly there, only in the beginning (1 minute or less) when the music goes from nothing to a "normal" level. I'm typing this while listening again and again and I find myself trying to hear the hiss instead of enjoying. Not what I intended to do - I wanted to enjoy the music.

So - I'm not sure it is in the recording. Or in my equipment. Or in a combination. Other Equipment is a AT-DHA3000/AT-L3000 combination (used but new to me). The link between the Yamaha and the Audio Technica amp is an optical cable. And I have multiple filters on the 220V.

Like I said, I never heard this background hiss before on this recording, not even when I picked up the cans. And the only thing in the setup that I heared then that I didn't buy was the cd-player (Traxdata). So it probably is the new Yamaha. (Or I'm getting more critical real fast now ) If so - I'll have to decide if it is a bad thing or not for me. I will have to make up my mind soon because I still have a week to return the Yamaha (agreed upon by the shop. *It is on a sort of already payed for loan. If I don't return it, I buy it. If for whatever reason I don't want it, I can get a refund or another player. While this is the normal/legal cooling down period where I live, it is also written down so I would be able to try it out at home at ease - the payment being the resellers ease ).

Something else - I have everything standing within arm's reach. And I can hear the CD-player spin up when everything around is quiet. Something you absolutly don't hear at first, but once noted... minor annoyance.

And when the set-up is in stand-by or pauze I can hear some static hiss, but only when I open up the volume on the amp maybe around 50% or more. That is a volume that I actualy find quite painfull on the recordings I played until now - so I find the normal distortion is asolutly undetectable while playing music... For me absolutly not critical, and normal even, but I still thought it worth mentioning here.

I think I will have to haul my AT-L3000/AT-DHA3000 to the shop at a quiet time and hook them up to other players (Arkam CD37 maybe? It has some dampening in the case they called dead metal. Until the spinning up sound I thought it silly... But when you go for something you might as well go all-out I guess) & read some of your advice/opinions and then decide.

Ok - figured this one out by myself I played the CD over the speakers this morning. First on the settings I normally use. And then louder, way louder. About 3 to 5 times louder according to the volume slider scale on my amp. That loud I took a dive to the volume slider when the music really started... Couldn't do that experiment at night. Anyway - at that level I hear the hiss also on my regular speaker setup. And it's very NOT there when I pauze the recording. So it's in the recording - I simply haven't ever played it so loud it was noticeable.

To say it in soundstage-terms I crept from the middle of the crowd (or even the back) forward until I had my head next to the drums. The recording is one of The Ondekoza - a Japanese percussiongroup - made in 1986.

So -I have purchased a Yamaha CD-s1000. But I have returned it to the shop; as agreed with the shop I could do that within the week.

As for the reason why: It had an unpleasant pressure in the very high audio-wave area. It seems to be a known issue and one that according to the shop is not in the region people can hear... But I did, as did my daughter. (She couldn't bear to listen to the thing.) So only upon returning the CDP did the shop tell me it is a known issue, but only if you measure. And only if your other equipment can reproduce it. Sort of an extremly high dog whistle.

Normaly this shop does not do refunds - but since I had it expressly written in advance, I got a full refund. And to their credit they didn't fuss about that.

After that I researched further and after a lot of listening sessions with my own amp and cans I bought a Cyrus CD8X (the old one with drawer) and a Cyrus PSX-R power supply. I liked the looks of the Yamaha better. The Cyrus does not do SACD. It also doesn't whistle but it did make me smile while listening to the music

Hi

 

I have a CD S2000 in a fairly high resolution system and have found the player to be overall very well balanced. With a good SACD recording the vocals are excellent with a nice sound stage.

 

I am quite satisfied with my unit.

 

 

Jozua

 

 

 

Ahhh..............resesatating a two year old thread.A few months ago I researched the CD-S2000, I like it. I'm looking for an opportunity to spend a little time auditioning.