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post #526 of 1418
Just got them, listening to them right now.

First impressions: First time I can say I was impressed right away with the sound quality. They seem very comfortable so far, even for a IEM newbie. Time to listen some more.
post #527 of 1418
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Originally Posted by JoyEnergizer View Post
You insane money sucking leech Head-fiers!!!!! ( ノ` 皿´)ノ

I finally ordered SA6 all because of this thread.

I am happy with my q-Jays but you all made me really curious about this phones.!!!

I'll post comparison review with er-4p vs q-Jays vs SA6 when I get them!!!

Can wait!! (ご , .ごメ)

I can't wait to read your comparison! I pulled the trigger on SA6 over the q-jays a week ago, and I'm happy with my purchase. I haven't been able to compare the two side-by-side though.
post #528 of 1418
personally i found the SA6 to be more well rounded than the er4S. Also the P to S adaptor does the same thing for the SA6 as what it does to the er4P
post #529 of 1418
Some questions about the ports and tubes:

- Is the sound difference between the spare parts significant or subtle?
- When using the Bass+ port, would the bass be less tight than the Bass=?
- Does the use of Treble+ or Treble++ have any effect on sibilance?

How does SA6 fares against ER4P, Superfi 5 pro and Triplefi 10 in terms of:

- Detail
- Sound stage
- Bass tightness and amount

Thanks.
post #530 of 1418
1) IMO, yes.
2) No. The bass is always well controlled. The difference is on the bass quantity, not quality.
3) None I can detect of.

Can't compare any since I have none.
post #531 of 1418
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Originally Posted by Navyblue View Post
Some questions about the ports and tubes:

- Is the sound difference between the spare parts significant or subtle?
- When using the Bass+ port, would the bass be less tight than the Bass=?
- Does the use of Treble+ or Treble++ have any effect on sibilance?

How does SA6 fares against ER4P, Superfi 5 pro and Triplefi 10 in terms of:

- Detail
- Sound stage
- Bass tightness and amount

Thanks.
1. Subtle, I would say. But enough to differentiate.
2. Not less tight at all (agree with ClieOS). But then again, how would I know because I have always used the bass+ port. Doh!
3. I backed off the treble++ and use the treble+ or even treble= on occasion. I can't say it was sibilance, but for whatever reason, I prefer not using treble ++.

Only had the ER4P and sold them a long time ago, in favor of the Atrio. So I would say detail-wise, from distant memory, the SA6 is what I wanted, as the ER4P might have been too detailed in the Ety way (besides, I picked up a pair of 716s for $20 to get that detail if I want it. After I de-pod them, I mean).

As for soundstage and bass tightness, the SA6 is the dead on as far as I'm concerned on the bass tightness and at least equals the ER4P, but I'm a lousy judge of soundstage. In both cases, I certainly favor the SA6 because I sold off the Atrios for them.

Never owned the UE or Shures.

SA6>Atrio>ER4P I guess.
post #532 of 1418
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Originally Posted by Kees View Post
The SA6 match extremely well with the D2. I use the combination every day and find it excellent.
Kees,

How's the SA6 Bass with the D2? Do you have to equalize or use Machbass to get enough of it?

I normally use Etys Er4s but with the D2 (even using external amps) they lack bass, dynamics and warmth, they sound much better with my older Cowon U3.

I want an IEM that sounds good with the D2 with no MachBass and the least possible equalization.

Before reading this thread I was going to buy the Atrio as their sonic signature (especially great punchy bass) seemed to match the bass dryness of the D2 but your statement regarding D2/SA6 synergy is making me to consider the sleek also.

Any input is welcome, as I live in Uruguay (South America) I wont be able to return the IEMs after purchasing them.
post #533 of 1418
Quote:
Originally Posted by Navyblue View Post
Some questions about the ports and tubes:

- Is the sound difference between the spare parts significant or subtle?
- When using the Bass+ port, would the bass be less tight than the Bass=?
- Does the use of Treble+ or Treble++ have any effect on sibilance?

How does SA6 fares against ER4P, Superfi 5 pro and Triplefi 10 in terms of:

- Detail
- Sound stage
- Bass tightness and amount

Thanks.

Ports & Tubes:
1) Somewhere in between significant and subtle, certainly noticeable.
2) No, it's not less tight
3) I am usually sensitive to sibilance, and I don't detect much on the treble++.

SA6 vs. Superfi5 and TripleFi10:
1) More detail than Superfi5, about equal to Triplefi10
2) Soundstage is about equal on all
3) Bass is tighter and in greater amount on SA6 when using bass+ port than both SuperFi and TripleFi. You can also increase bass quantity by using Shure foamies or grey tips on SA6.

Never heard ER4P, so I can't comment.
post #534 of 1418
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by GVera View Post
Kees,

How's the SA6 Bass with the D2? Do you have to equalize or use Machbass to get enough of it?
I use no equalizer settings or Machbass and I find the bass quite satisfying.
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Originally Posted by GVera View Post
I normally use Etys Er4s but with the D2 (even using external amps) they lack bass, dynamics and warmth, they sound much better with my older Cowon U3.
I agree. I use my ER-4P/S with my Trekstor Vibez (also a very nice combination).

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Originally Posted by GVera View Post
Before reading this thread I was going to buy the Atrio as their sonic signature (especially great punchy bass) seemed to match the bass dryness of the D2 but your statement regarding D2/SA6 synergy is making me to consider the sleek also.

Any input is welcome, as I live in Uruguay (South America) I wont be able to return the IEMs after purchasing them.
I also have considered the Atrio (and the Shure E500) for my D2, but I never got to hear them, because I am very happy with the SA6.

But keep in mind please, your taste may differ from mine. I am not into trance, dance and electronica or RAP or HIP HOP, and I don't crave for the last ounce of MEGABass that seems to be needed with that...
post #535 of 1418
I found the bass anemic, even with the bass + port, with an excellent seal using the biflanges, especially as compared with SE530's and UM2's. For rock, post-rock, anything with a bottom end, I didn't find them satisfying. Nice high end and detail, though.
post #536 of 1418
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Originally Posted by AndrewF View Post
I found the bass anemic, even with the bass + port, with an excellent seal using the biflanges, especially as compared with SE530's and UM2's. For rock, post-rock, anything with a bottom end, I didn't find them satisfying. Nice high end and detail, though.
I find this completely bizarre, I had the SA6's and E500's together here for a few weeks before I sold the E500's, while there are certainly differences, I concluded the E500's have a bit fuller, rounder bass while the SA6's are tighter and punchier. The SA6's are far from anemic in fact although different from the E500's I'd say the quality and quantity (with bass + port) are in about the same league.
post #537 of 1418
x2

Anemic bass is not what I hear either. They sound fine with all types of styles, rock included, to my ears.
post #538 of 1418
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Originally Posted by tstarn06 View Post
x2

Anemic bass is not what I hear either. They sound fine with all types of styles, rock included, to my ears.
Well, last I heard, UM2s are considered "bass monsters" to the point that "they have little else then bass". (not exactly true, I guess, but...)
Undoubtely, if someone is a basshead, and got used to UM2s, he'll will consider balanced headphones bass-anemic and 'uninvolving'.
Unfortunately, I'm one of those... (have UM1, but it's sound signature is similar). So, gotta wait for bass++ ports myself. Even if they will make bass more bloated (provided not TOO bloated).
After all, it's a matter of choice...
post #539 of 1418
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Originally Posted by AndrewF View Post
I found the bass anemic, even with the bass + port, with an excellent seal using the biflanges, especially as compared with SE530's and UM2's. For rock, post-rock, anything with a bottom end, I didn't find them satisfying. Nice high end and detail, though.
You should use the biggest earplug, I'm have pretty bass head taste but set up with those big earplug (despite they are slightly to big for me) revealed the bass line the way I like it.
although I must admit that unlike other earphone I had, the SA6 won't produce bass if they aren't any in the sound message unlike my former headphone who boomed the same way with any freq below (100hz-150hz). As a result poorly encoded electro mp3 grabbed from web radio, is not as there as with a bass head headphone. But then, on good recording it is so enjoyable to be able to ear the difference between en heart beat and a bass line while still feeling something pumping that the SA6 will probably make you want to get your recording properly encoded

Anyhow for me the bass revelation for was not the bass + over the bass = : it was the big ear plug
post #540 of 1418
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Originally Posted by Musso View Post
Got a call from FedEx yesterday. I will be getting my SA6s next week: Monday or Tuesday!! \0/ I asked them to make the delivery to my work, so I'll get them sooner Still waiting to hear the amount I have to pay taxes and other expenses.
Update on my order: i finally have them home!!
Got the flu on Monday, so I called FedEx to change the delivery to my home address. But still they delivered them to my work on Tuesday. Had to go to the doctor today so i went to get my package from the office. When i got home and opened the box i found only 5 bass ports. Only one = port was attached. I've searched but can't find it. But i think it's ok 'cause the + port sounds good to me .

By reading the thread i see that I'm not the only one choosing between q-Jays and SA6s. On my case it wasn't so hard to decide. But I still want to read the comparisons between them
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