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post #31 of 525
1/7/08 at 9:15pm
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Originally Posted by grawk View Post
Core audio makes bringing devices like this to market much easier. So apogee, an audio, rather than computer, company, didn't want to go through the work it took to get it to sound as good with windows. Who can blame them. After all, a mac mini + a duet is cheaper than a benchmark w/ usb, and includes a top notch ADC taboot.
I don't see why it would be any more difficult to make it sound good with PC. Nowadays you have many devices which support both Windows and OSX. Do these devices sound different when driven under Windows than compared to OSX?
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post #32 of 525
1/8/08 at 12:22am
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Originally Posted by Patu View Post
I don't see why it would be any more difficult to make it sound good with PC. Nowadays you have many devices which support both Windows and OSX. Do these devices sound different when driven under Windows than compared to OSX?
funny you should ask

Wavelength seems to think apple sounds best and empirical audio seems to think windows?

The Duet as has been mentioned in this thread was designed to work with Core Audio from Apple
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post #33 of 525
1/8/08 at 12:35am
The windows equivalent of core audio resamples everything to 48/16. Since this is almost never desirable, it means that anyone that wants something better than that has to go with something else, which requires more work. Specifically, benchmark felt like they had to write their own drivers from the ground up, for example. By using Apple Core Audio and firewire, apogee was able to code to a standard, and have things work exactly the way they wanted without additional effort. It makes a difference. Include 1 chip (firewire support) vs jump through the hoops it takes to get usb sound to sound good on windows.
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post #34 of 525
1/8/08 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
Wow, not feeling the love. I'm enjoying my Duet as well.
Oh, sorry. Glad you are enjoying yours as well. You too Grawk! :P
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post #35 of 525
1/8/08 at 3:13pm
I don't have one, although odds are good I'll pick one up. I'm just pointing out technical details as to why things were done the way they were. Apogee is a good company, and I've owned a few of their converters, and currently use a minidac.
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post #36 of 525
1/8/08 at 8:25pm
Ok thanks for clarifying.
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post #37 of 525
1/8/08 at 11:36pm
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Originally Posted by grawk View Post
I don't have one, although odds are good I'll pick one up. I'm just pointing out technical details as to why things were done the way they were. Apogee is a good company, and I've owned a few of their converters, and currently use a minidac.
I think Irondreamer has mini dac so we can head 2 head them ay the Feb 2nd meet
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post #38 of 525
1/9/08 at 2:24am
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What a great looking little device and then it supports only Mac. That sucks big time.
... and you will also find situations where the reverse is often true.
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post #39 of 525
1/9/08 at 2:32am
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... and you will also find situations where the reverse is often true.

That's why god invented parallels
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post #40 of 525
1/9/08 at 4:30am
... or VMware. I know. I would still prefer not to have to use them.
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post #41 of 525
1/9/08 at 8:37am
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... and you will also find situations where the reverse is often true.
No I won't because I couldn't care less if some product supports Mac or doesn't. I use PC.
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post #42 of 525
1/9/08 at 2:07pm
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What a great looking little device and then it supports only Mac. That sucks big time.
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No I won't because I couldn't care less if some product supports Mac or doesn't. I use PC.
OK, which is it? It sucks big time or you don't care because you use a PC?
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post #43 of 525
1/9/08 at 2:56pm
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rather than see this devolve into mac-pc blah, blah, blah. Cant we simply understand this is a mac only product like the many other products that are pc only. If you are a pc only user well this is one product you cant enjoy but at least you have many other products that are pc compliant.
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post #44 of 525
1/9/08 at 3:05pm
Maybe the way to look at this is whether it's worthwhile to buy a Duet and mac mini to replace your $1000 + source. If the mac/Duet is better to your ears than whatever source you have and $1000 is a reasonalble upgrade than go for it. You get a great computer in the bargain.
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post #45 of 525
1/9/08 at 3:24pm
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Originally Posted by jp11801 View Post
rather than see this devolve into mac-pc blah, blah, blah. Cant we simply understand this is a mac only product like the many other products that are pc only. If you are a pc only user well this is one product you cant enjoy but at least you have many other products that are pc compliant.
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Reminds me of the posts when the 1G iPod was Mac only and PC owners thought they 'deserved it'. Man if you only knew what it was like being a Mac user.

And why are there so many computer source threads in the dedicated source forum?
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