Originally Posted by selfdivider
I don't think you read my statement carefully. I said the Playstation outclassed the Cambridge Audio 840C "in my system." Why is that a ridiculous concept? Obviously, we have our personal listening preferences, and as such, one component outclasses the other according to our preference. I don't see why we have to get so PC on even determining which components we personally prefer in our own systems!
Mm... as for liking the PS1 better than 840C, what can I say? It's true. I'm sure in some other systems, the 840C will work with better synergy, but in mine, the PS1 rocks. Through my system, the 840C sounded too processed, and had that sheen... when the PS1 came in, the music became really ballsy, and the sound in my system got warmer, more musically powerful, and less "machined."
I'm hardly alone in my opinion that the PS1 is a kick-ass CDP. John Devore, a few years ago, had the Playstation 1 as a front end for his Devore 3 speakers in his CES show room & everyone was surprised by the sound... some of them were looking around for a separate DAC.
Originally Posted by skullguise
Thanks for the input, folks.
I still think the Primare was a better player; but as someone said, we hear things differently. Also different systems for sure.
I think there was more of a tonal warmth with the Primare, but I wouldn't call that colored, at least based on what I heard. The slight glare I heard from the 840C I would classify as more colored. But I AM still wondering if indeed more burn-in was needed.
I may ask the dealer if I could borrow the 840C for some time, as I'm closer to buying. Heck, might also be able to borrow the Primare as well. Be nice to try both in my system. Still a little more $ to save up, though....
So far as what you say you heard and prefered selfdivider, into your system, S.S. intergrated and one who desires 'that analog sound", a much more coherent sound, I can begin to understand based upon your system and bias, your preferance, I supose. I still have trouble believing the PS1 has the punch in the lower freq. and dynamics vs the 840c, which from my understanding and experience, always has to do with CDPs (or amplifiers too for that matter) power supply, tordial in the latters case. Again, perhaps, as always is dependent upon the tranducer(s) employed.(shrugs) And further, vs our applications here with headphones particularly.
Whereas, sonic signature wise, the analitical highly detailed and what I like to term, slightly spotlighted and highly seperated signal revealed especially here with my headphone system,is quite satisfying in that regard and with punch!
Then too, as always we must recognise quality of the master and mix of the particular material choosen and perhaps prefered, in terms of genres also.
A combination of these factors , such as the well regarded yet still S.S. intergrated amp you are using, may very well be highlighting the lower freq, as well as upper mid bass and lower treble slightly, in terms of spotlighting whatever source signal recieved etc...
Yep, system synergy and personal biases as well as recordings may very well lead one to prefer a PS1, appearently, I guess....
Skullguiese, I would like to know of the tubes employed within the Modwright, as I can tune my Foreplay(said to be biased towards transpearency, sonically), with EIs for hyper transpearency, to the Buggle Boys for a balanced yet touch of tube warmth, or my Mullards for much more warmth relative to the Amprex BuggleBoys, for instance. All while maintaning the punch(throughout the freq spectrum but most noteworthy in the systems bass presentation, clearity and signal seperation which is what the 740c brought and is appreciated here using the Meier and stock K-701s(noted to be balanced and neutral). I am being presented with the most articulate and deep, tuneful quality bass and with attack of bass strings(Mapleshade Records Jazz) I've ever encountered.
Also, burn-in and knowing those hours is all important in this particular CDP, as i've experienced quite a few degrees of difference in terms of its once brightness "out of the box" which, as I said, was removed even then on most recordings by tube changes in my Foreplay; Vs now, @ 200 hrs where I've now sucessfully removed the preamp from the component chain(only as a test, because i like the added 3D soundstaging and ambiance as well as tone it adds, specific tube choice dependent), and only on a few recordings do I find the presentation to be slightly bright in those upper mids and lower treble somewhat the same as with the tubes in line pre this 200 hr burn in...
Just thought i would add these thoughts for readers who may mistake someone saying a PS1 is prefered to something else without important qualifiers or being able to judge degrees of these qualitys written and or heard, and why...