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Feb 19, 2008 at 2:04 AM Post #226 of 3,397
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eBay.ie: 4 x Mullard EF91 CV4014 M8083 pentode valves (item 180207020318 end time 13-Feb-08 16:43:40 GMT)

Got these today
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PS: on the valve doesn't say M8083 but I can see the shield is it a military grade ?

In 1 of the 4 there is a different and smaller shield on the back is that making any differences ?


If they're not printed M8083 then they're not military grade but rather are just ordinary Mullard EF91's. They're still Mullards though, so they will still sound like Mullards even though the M-series has more robust internal construction and lower noise.
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How is the soundstage?
 
Feb 19, 2008 at 11:10 AM Post #227 of 3,397
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If they're not printed M8083 then they're not military grade but rather are just ordinary Mullard EF91's. They're still Mullards though, so they will still sound like Mullards even though the M-series has more robust internal construction and lower noise.
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How is the soundstage?


Thanks guys
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It just says cv4014 on one....

I'm still burning in the M8100
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(and I have another 2 sets on the way).

I like the 8100 more then the stock ones, they are like warmer...

I'm using a pair of hd600 and a pair of 325i, but also if I can hear that the grado are more clear I really can't get used to that sound so I might sell them and stick to the Senn and use them for all the testing
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I'm a trip pop kind of guy I probably just don't like the highs...
 
Feb 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM Post #228 of 3,397
Thanks Head Fi,


After careful consideration I have ordered the LD MK III. I feel it represents an excellent bang for buck value.

I'm undecided on head phones although I do have AKG 240M's (that are ancient and power hungry). I'm leaning toward HD600's used or new.

Source for the time being is the analog out of a Auzen Prelude 7.1 card. Stock op amps.

I just placed the order for the LD about 20 minutes ago....so I'll most likely have it late next week.

I'll post some impressions after it's burned in for 48 hrs first. I imagine the old K240's might do well with this amp. I'll know fairly quickly once the amp gets here.

I'm taking this process one step at a time as the forum's members have suggested I do. Luckily the local music shop's manager is a good friend and will lend me some other brands of head phones to try out free of charge (a really cool guy).

Well, enjoy the music Head Fi'er's and thanks for the insight/advice
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Feb 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM Post #229 of 3,397
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Originally Posted by Pricklely Peete /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Thanks Head Fi,


After careful consideration I have ordered the LD MK III. I feel it represents an excellent bang for buck value.

I'm undecided on head phones although I do have AKG 240M's (that are ancient and power hungry). I'm leaning toward HD600's used or new.

Source for the time being is the analog out of a Auzen Prelude 7.1 card. Stock op amps.

I just placed the order for the LD about 20 minutes ago....so I'll most likely have it late next week.

I'll post some impressions after it's burned in for 48 hrs first. I imagine the old K240's might do well with this amp. I'll know fairly quickly once the amp gets here.

I'm taking this process one step at a time as the forum's members have suggested I do. Luckily the local music shop's manager is a good friend and will lend me some other brands of head phones to try out free of charge (a really cool guy).

Well, enjoy the music Head Fi'er's and thanks for the insight/advice
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Congratulations! You've made an excellent choice! So have I!! I found out mine is on it's way too!!
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I think your idea of getting the HD-600's is a good one. I have those, and really like how they sound with my other LD amps. I can safely say "you can't go wrong" with them.
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As soon as my MKIII arrives, I will start compiling data for my full review. I'm getting pretty good at them, so I hope to have it done within 7 business days. This will also give me time to "enjoy" the MKIII, which is important for the overall impression of the amp.
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Feb 19, 2008 at 11:12 PM Post #230 of 3,397
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Congratulations! You've made an excellent choice! So have I!! I found out mine is on it's way too!!
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I think your idea of getting the HD-600's is a good one. I have those, and really like how they sound with my other LD amps. I can safely say "you can't go wrong" with them.
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As soon as my MKIII arrives, I will start compiling data for my full review. I'm getting pretty good at them, so I hope to have it done within 7 business days. This will also give me time to "enjoy" the MKIII, which is important for the overall impression of the amp.
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Thanks Penchum. Your reviews were what sold me on the LD brand !! I think David should give you a 10% discount on future purchase's
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I'm curious to hear the K240M's with this amp. It's kinda hard to find used HD600's, seems no one who has a pair want to part with them (not that I would blame them ). I have to wait for my Tax return anyhow so in the mean time I'll try and borrow different models & brands from friends (if possible).

I look forward to your Mk III review !!
 
Feb 19, 2008 at 11:22 PM Post #231 of 3,397
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Originally Posted by Pricklely Peete /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Thanks Penchum. Your reviews were what sold me on the LD brand !! I think David should give you a 10% discount on future purchase's
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I'm curious to hear the K240M's with this amp. It's kinda hard to find used HD600's, seems no one who has a pair want to part with them (not that I would blame them ). I have to wait for my Tax return anyhow so in the mean time I'll try and borrow different models & brands from friends (if possible).

I look forward to your Mk III review !!


Thanks for the kind words! I bought my HD-600's from Comp-U-plus, for $258, which is a reasonable price. Look here: Sennheiser HD 600 Professional Stereo - CompUPlus Direct

I think you have to click for the price. I wanted to buy them new, so I could control the burn-in process myself, and not worry about replacing the pads or cables for it. That might seem picky, but they are a personal item that you wear, so it makes me feel better having them new.
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Feb 19, 2008 at 11:28 PM Post #232 of 3,397
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Originally Posted by Pricklely Peete /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Thanks Penchum. Your reviews were what sold me on the LD brand !! I think David should give you a 10% discount on future purchase's
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I'm curious to hear the K240M's with this amp. It's kinda hard to find used HD600's, seems no one who has a pair want to part with them (not that I would blame them ). I have to wait for my Tax return anyhow so in the mean time I'll try and borrow different models & brands from friends (if possible).

I look forward to your Mk III review !!


There's an ebay seller who has new HD580's for $169, he seems to have the last stash of these. From all reports, the 580 and 600 are super close to one another.

I was impressed with the MkIII right out of the gate with my very old (1982) vintage K240's. They were the "sextett" version which still has a following to this day. In fact I sold them for $155 on eBay, having paid $109 as I recall back in 1982!

I will be interested in Mr. Penchum's thoughts on the MkIII as well. I believe the only current LD not in his stable is the standard MkIV. Give us the true head to head down and dirty P!

Enjoy the amp!

E
 
Feb 19, 2008 at 11:45 PM Post #234 of 3,397
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There's an ebay seller who has new HD580's for $169, he seems to have the last stash of these. From all reports, the 580 and 600 are super close to one another.

I was impressed with the MkIII right out of the gate with my very old (1982) vintage K240's. They were the "sextett" version which still has a following to this day. In fact I sold them for $155 on eBay, having paid $109 as I recall back in 1982!

I will be interested in Mr. Penchum's thoughts on the MkIII as well. I believe the only current LD not in his stable is the standard MkIV. Give us the true head to head down and dirty P!

Enjoy the amp!

E


You bet! It won't be a comparative review, but it is supposed to be the "sweet spot" in the line-up, so that will be looked at heavily, which will involve the other models I have, all three Senn's and many sources.
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About the Senn's, my modded HD-580s sound close to the HD-600's, but fall short of having the same dynamic sound. Even at the reduced price, plus the cost of the mods, you are still only $40-50 away from new HD-600s. If a budget is a concern, then the HD-580 makes sense, because you can spread out the mod costs at your discretion. Otherwise, getting the HD-600's new does have a few advantages overall. IMHO, YMMV, the weather might change, etc.
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Feb 20, 2008 at 12:07 AM Post #235 of 3,397
Thanks guys,

The K240M's I have are from around 1988 or 87 I believe. I like the open design better than closed. The overall sound seems better to me with that type of design. Could just be personal preference. I used K140's for years before I bought the K240's. I think the K140's were 1981 vintage. I ended up giving them to my band's bass player when our band split in 84. He still has them today and likes them for recording.

It's seems the best price for HD600's is around 255-269.00 US brand new. Used around 180 to 200 depending on condition. I much prefer "new" for the reason stated by "Penchum".

I just got through chatting with David. Now that's customer service !!! He answered every question moments after sending inquiries. I like it.

Penchum, after you recieve and review your MK III I'd be interested in reading your opinions on tube rolling for the MK III !

Regards to all,

Pricklely P.
 
Feb 20, 2008 at 12:10 AM Post #236 of 3,397
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Originally Posted by ethebull /img/forum/go_quote.gif
There's an ebay seller who has new HD580's for $169, he seems to have the last stash of these. From all reports, the 580 and 600 are super close to one another.

I was impressed with the MkIII right out of the gate with my very old (1982) vintage K240's. They were the "sextett" version which still has a following to this day. In fact I sold them for $155 on eBay, having paid $109 as I recall back in 1982!

I will be interested in Mr. Penchum's thoughts on the MkIII as well. I believe the only current LD not in his stable is the standard MkIV. Give us the true head to head down and dirty P!

Enjoy the amp!

E


I'd be interested in the details on the "sextett" version of the K240's ethebull. What's the diff between the 2 versions ?

Regards,

Pricklely P.
 
Feb 20, 2008 at 12:23 AM Post #238 of 3,397
Thanks E,

Wow, 6 passive radiators ? No wonder those are sought after
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Feb 20, 2008 at 1:53 PM Post #240 of 3,397
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Looking fwd to your great review Penchum.

A feeling I had with the mk III is that I'd liked to have a bit more of juice with my Senn, especially on classic music...


This can be source dependent too. What source are you using and which tubes in the MKIII? Ow, and what "Gain" settings are you using on the MKIII?
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