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post #1846 of 2867
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Originally Posted by MinoX View Post
I would like to know what is the difference...
I'm not sure there is any real difference other than that they were made a couple of years apart.
post #1847 of 2867
So... anyone tried the Sylvania blue-glass 6AK5? Yen has them but the price is even higher than usual... wonder if they sound great or just novelty because of the blue. I know some really liked the Sylvanias they got, but the one pair I tried was horribly microphonic. Any thoughts?

Sylvania Blue Glass 6AK5 5654 Little Dot Amplifier EF95 - eBay (item 280330926579 end time Jun-05-09 02:05:06 PDT)
post #1848 of 2867
It seems like people have been looking for these. I think I finally found some real military spec (not general consumer) M8161 Mullards. I'm probably going to order some today:

CV4015 M8161 EF92 9D6 MULLARD QDD TUBE VALVE NOS PAIR - (eBay.ca item 270280786849 end time 26-May-09 07:42:27 EDT)

From what I've been seeing on ebay, there's a couple people selling what's labeled at M8161 tubes, but their pictures are STOCK images I've seen 3-4 places online. It makes me think that they're going to not be the real thing once you get them (like equivalents). Even Yen is selling equivalents (CV131) with a label of it being = to M8161. To my understanding, yes the tube will work, but you're getting different sound out of the thing.

These look good though, what do you think?
post #1849 of 2867

Real M8161 Mullard EF92's

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post #1850 of 2867
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Originally Posted by ScottieB View Post
So... anyone tried the Sylvania blue-glass 6AK5? Yen has them but the price is even higher than usual... wonder if they sound great or just novelty because of the blue. I know some really liked the Sylvanias they got, but the one pair I tried was horribly microphonic. Any thoughts?

Sylvania Blue Glass 6AK5 5654 Little Dot Amplifier EF95 - eBay (item 280330926579 end time Jun-05-09 02:05:06 PDT)

I'd like to hear what people think on those, too. The price seems to be pretty high for them. I wonder how they compare to the Voshod 6ZH1P's? Speaking of those, anyone notice that the price of these have gone up in general now that more people are starting to praise their (originally) inexpensive, diamond-in-the-rough quality?
post #1851 of 2867
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Originally Posted by BombayTheIndian View Post
I'd like to hear what people think on those, too. The price seems to be pretty high for them. I wonder how they compare to the Voshod 6ZH1P's? Speaking of those, anyone notice that the price of these have gone up in general now that more people are starting to praise their (originally) inexpensive, diamond-in-the-rough quality?
That's pretty much been the trend with EF95 tubes in general... since the MKIII and Darkvoice amps have become popular the price of these tubes (especially NOS) has skyrocketed. Not to mention that NOS tube only get more rare as time goes on by definition.
post #1852 of 2867
Most tubes that I buy are still pretty reasonable, you just have to know what to look for and have patience. 4-12 dollars per tube seems about the (reasonable) going rate for EF95, EF92, and EF91 tubes..
post #1853 of 2867
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Originally Posted by ScottieB View Post
So... anyone tried the Sylvania blue-glass 6AK5? Yen has them but the price is even higher than usual... wonder if they sound great or just novelty because of the blue. I know some really liked the Sylvanias they got, but the one pair I tried was horribly microphonic. Any thoughts?

Sylvania Blue Glass 6AK5 5654 Little Dot Amplifier EF95 - eBay (item 280330926579 end time Jun-05-09 02:05:06 PDT)
Those tubes are made in England, so maybe they are made by Mullard or by Amperex. I'm curious if they have a Phillips/Mullard code eched in on them.
post #1854 of 2867
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Originally Posted by Max F View Post
Most tubes that I buy are still pretty reasonable, you just have to know what to look for and have patience. 4-12 dollars per tube seems about the (reasonable) going rate for EF95, EF92, and EF91 tubes..
Care to enlighten me? I've had mostly nothing but bad luck buying from anyone other than Yen.
post #1855 of 2867
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Originally Posted by Max F View Post
Most tubes that I buy are still pretty reasonable, you just have to know what to look for and have patience. 4-12 dollars per tube seems about the (reasonable) going rate for EF95, EF92, and EF91 tubes..
I agree! Have you found any real military spec Mullard M8161's for a cheaper price than 30/pair shipped?
post #1856 of 2867
E-bay mainly. List below are from e-bay unless noted.

Like my last and best purchase. Five Sylvania 6AK5WB tubes for 20 bucks including shipping. 6AK5 EF95 6J1 SYLVANIA BLACK PLATE NOS SLEEVE - eBay (item 130303982804 end time May-03-09 20:09:20 PDT)

Other best tubes:

Raytheon 6AK5W from thetubecenter.com for 4 bucks a piece.
CEI EF92 (not sure who originally made them in England) for 5 bucks a piece.
Vishod 6ZH1P-EV - 17 bucks for 4 (including shipping)
Mullard CV4010 - 18 bucks for 2 (including shipping)

Others:
Brimar EF91 - two for 9 bucks including shipping
WE 403B for 10 bucks a piece from thetubecenter.com
GE 5-stars for 4 bucks a piece from antique electronic supply
Mullard EF91s for 3 bucks a piece.

Plus a few crappy tubes I got burned on, but overall I had a good experience. Granted I could have just bought the best tubes from Yen and be done with it, but I've had a good time trying out all these tubes. Plus I'm just cheap and like finding a good deal.
post #1857 of 2867
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Originally Posted by Max F View Post
SNIP
Plus a few crappy tubes I got burned on, but overall I had a good experience. Granted I could have just bought the best tubes from Yen and be done with it, but I've had a good time trying out all these tubes. Plus I'm just cheap and like finding a good deal.
haha thanks for that. Guess I've just had bad luck the few times I've tried. I keep looking on ebay but am wary after a few I thought were gonna be killer came with problems (like when I tried to get the Sylvanias).

Anyway thanks for the tips. I'll just keep scouring the 'net.
post #1858 of 2867
I'm pretty sure those sylvania tubes I got (black plate round getter - 6ak5wb) are THE tubes everyone was raving about earlier in this thread. I'm pretty sure that guy sold 3 or 4 sets of 5 tubes for $15+5 bucks shipping. Pretty sweet deal. You got to look everyday though.

I'm giving up all my secrets now that I'm pretty much done hoarding tubes!
post #1859 of 2867
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Originally Posted by BombayTheIndian View Post
It seems like people have been looking for these. I think I finally found some real military spec (not general consumer) M8161 Mullards. I'm probably going to order some today:

CV4015 M8161 EF92 9D6 MULLARD QDD TUBE VALVE NOS PAIR - (eBay.ca item 270280786849 end time 26-May-09 07:42:27 EDT)


These look good though, what do you think?
Unfortunately those are the small shield Mullards. The small shields are not bad at all but the large shield (military) version is noticeably better. The biggest difference is with bass and overall weight to various instruments like the piano, bass, guitar etc. The large shields are imo the best overall tubes for the MKIII.

IIRC the CV131 sounds closer to the large shield 8161 then the small shield 8161s do. The small shields are a newer stock. I would buy these instead Mullard CV131. Clean those pins until they are shiny and you are good to go.
post #1860 of 2867
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Originally Posted by Max F View Post
E-bay mainly. List below are from e-bay unless noted.

Like my last and best purchase. Quad of Sylvania 6AK5WB tubes for 20 bucks including shipping. 6AK5 EF95 6J1 SYLVANIA BLACK PLATE NOS SLEEVE - eBay (item 130303982804 end time May-03-09 20:09:20 PDT)

Other best tubes:

Raytheon 6AK5W from thetubecenter.com for 4 bucks a piece.
CEI EF92 (not sure who originally made them in England) for 5 bucks a piece.
Vishod 6ZH1P-EV - 17 bucks for 4 (including shipping)
Mullard CV4010 - 18 bucks for 2 (including shipping)

Others:
Brimar EF91 - two for 9 bucks including shipping
WE 403B for 10 bucks a piece from thetubecenter.com
GE 5-stars for 4 bucks a piece from antique electronic supply
Mullard EF91s for 3 bucks a piece.

Plus a few crappy tubes I got burned on, but overall I had a good experience. Granted I could have just bought the best tubes from Yen and be done with it, but I've had a good time trying out all these tubes. Plus I'm just cheap and like finding a good deal.

My experience pretty well parallels yours... I've bought a few hundred tubes off of eBay and just had one bad experience but the seller refunded my money on that purchase. I did have to leave bad feedback for him before he offered a refund if i retracted it. Sellers are usually afraid of bad feedback..You can usually buy alot of tubes for the amount that you'd pay Yen for one pair, and getting some hidden gems for good deals is more appealling to me. And as you said, if you're patient and observant you can get some excellent tubes. Alot of times the pics of the tubes will help you find real deals...Last week I got 2 Amperex Bugle Boys that were only advertised as Amperex..The photos clearly showed them to be Bugle Boys and I got them for $10 But deals are alot harder to find than they were a year ago...

Those Sylvania 6ak5wb's are a real steal..Congrats....A few head-fiers thought they were just as good or better than the Sylvania Golds...I originally picked up 10 about a year ago and they are my favorite 6ak5. I think they were from the same lot as yours as the sleeves look identical even down to the check mark on the individual boxes... Let us know what u think of them after u get them burnt in...
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