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post #901 of 1584

Not sure if this has been posted yet, so i'll share it anyway.  B&H has the Q-40's on sale right now for $90.  They seem real popular so I figured you guys might wanna know

 

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=529902&Q=&is=REG&A=details

post #902 of 1584
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Originally Posted by quisxx View Post

Not sure if this has been posted yet, so i'll share it anyway.  B&H has the Q-40's on sale right now for $90.  They seem real popular so I figured you guys might wanna know

 

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=529902&Q=&is=REG&A=details

 

Thanks for posting for my brethren as these are easily worth double that.  I paid $126 and felt I got a steal!  These are really good quality sound and a bassheads dream.  

post #903 of 1584

Ok so I've finally got mine and have listened to them quiet a lot for the last couple of days.

 

There's absolutely no doubt that the bass is the first thing one notice when putting these on for the first time. Fortunately they're much more than just bass.

 

I changed to beyer pads pretty fast and the comfort went from not so good to great. However I think that the beyer pads muffles the sound a bit. To try to get the best of both worlds I put on a pair of Hifiman leather pads. This really made them sound great altough the comfort is not as good as with the beyer pads I still prefered the Hifiman pads.

 

I actuallt thought that the bass rumble was a little too much so I opened up the cuos to see what was in there and the answer was not much.

 

Plain plastic cups and no dampening at all. I decided to put some dynamat in the cups and threw in a very thin piece of glassfiber dampening that I usually use on speakers and put the cups back togheter again.

 

Put on the Hifiman pads ans turned them on: No sound at all from the left cup..... So I opened the left cup again and found that one of the cables from the minijack input were loose so I had to bring out my soldering iron and resoldered all of the connections while I was at it.

 

Put them back together again and put the Hifiman pads back on: Great sound! More distinct bass and less rumble bass, much more to my liking. I then put the beyer pads back on and I think that they work much better now with the dampening inside the cups. 

 

I still have not decided if I should stick with the Hifiman or the beyer pads. Will try a little more the next days. I also ordered Hifiman velour pads to see how they work out.

 

In all I'm very happy with this purcahse and these are some really fun headphones to owndt880smile.png

 

Edit: Forgot to mention that I've been running them from my Schiit Magni and that works very well.


Edited by peter123 - 4/1/13 at 11:50am
post #904 of 1584

^ Nice work!

post #905 of 1584

At last the Hifiman velour pads arrived. After adding them I'm really happy with both sound and comfort. I must say that the little amount of modding I've done has really changed the sound on these phones. 

 

The Dynamat and glassfiber took away tha rumble bass and left a more distinct good punch.

 

The Hfiman pads made the sound clearer and lifted the midrange in a very nice way. I prefer thae Hifiman velour's to the Beyer pads.

 

The only other headphone I've come across that have responded this well (and much) to such easy modding is the Fostex t50rp.

 

I really enjoy them much more now than stock and they sound good with everything I've listened to with them so far (rock, pop, singer/songwriter, indie etc) and REALLY  shines with music like Depeche Mode, Robyn, Black Eyed Peas and other bass heavy stuff.

 

They do have much less bass now than stock but does still punch as deep when needed to.

 

I also changed the cable to a V-moda cable (just to get a shorter and thinner cable).

post #906 of 1584
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At last the Hifiman velour pads arrived. After adding them I'm really happy with both sound and comfort. I must say that the little amount of modding I've done has really changed the sound on these phones. 

The Dynamat and glassfiber took away tha rumble bass and left a more distinct good punch.

The Hfiman pads made the sound clearer and lifted the midrange in a very nice way. I prefer thae Hifiman velour's to the Beyer pads.

The only other headphone I've come across that have responded this well (and much) to such easy modding is the Fostex t50rp.

I really enjoy them much more now than stock and they sound good with everything I've listened to with them so far (rock, pop, singer/songwriter, indie etc) and REALLY  shines with music like Depeche Mode, Robyn, Black Eyed Peas and other bass heavy stuff.

They do have much less bass now than stock but does still punch as deep when needed to.

I also changed the cable to a V-moda cable (just to get a shorter and thinner cable).

How's the fit? I thought the HiFiman pads had a plastic plate on the back of them.

Do they make the midrange slightly recessed like the beyer pads do?
post #907 of 1584

I've been using a new cable over the last couple of weeks, it was quite hard finding a 3m cable with a small enough jack but i found a Fisual s-flex mini that is perfect and it's improved the sound dramatically, the highs are mellowed and the mids are clearer and smoother, and the bass is tighter but it has decreased in quantity a little.

post #908 of 1584
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How's the fit? I thought the HiFiman pads had a plastic plate on the back of them.

Do they make the midrange slightly recessed like the beyer pads do?

The fit is perfect. The plastic holders are loose so it's just to remove them.

 

I feel that the midrange is way less recessed than with the beyer pads and that make the whole sound a ittle bit less warm and more sparkling.

 

The Hifiman pads are relatively cheap (I paid $30 for two pairs shipped to Norway) and really thick and nice so I'm sure you'll find some use for them even if you don't like them with the Q40'sregular_smile%20.gif

post #909 of 1584
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The fit is perfect. The plastic holders are loose so it's just to remove them.

I feel that the midrange is way less recessed than with the beyer pads and that make the whole sound a ittle bit less warm and more sparkling.

The Hifiman pads are relatively cheap (I paid $30 for two pairs shipped to Norway) and really thick and nice so I'm sure you'll find some use for them even if you don't like them with the Q40'sregular_smile%20.gif

Hm, think I'm gong to pick them up then. Thanks for the reply. smily_headphones1.gif
post #910 of 1584
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Hm, think I'm gong to pick them up then. Thanks for the reply. smily_headphones1.gif

Of course, as always no guarantees that you like the same as me but I really think it's worth a shot if you would like to tweak the sound a bit.

post #911 of 1584

Mine arrived today, and... OMG I don't think i'll need another pair of cans for a while.  Only thing i'll look for is any mods that remove the slight veil over the midrange.  Other than that these babies are perfect.

post #912 of 1584

Another thing, maybe it's b/c my ears aren't "audiophile" quality, but I don't find the mids recessed at all, if anything they sound a bit forward to me. Only complaint is the slight veil that seems to cover them, Then again it could just be all cans sound like that to me (all 5 pairs i've tried sound like they have the veil, the m40's seem to have lees of the veil though) seeing as I've always used IEM's.


Edited by quisxx - 4/5/13 at 2:22pm
post #913 of 1584
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Another thing, maybe it's b/c my ears aren't "audiophile" quality, but I don't find the mids recessed at all, if anything they sound a bit forward to me. Only complaint is the slight veil that seems to cover them, Then again it could just be all cans sound like that to me (all 5 pairs i've tried sound like they have the veil, the m40's seem to have lees of the veil though) seeing as I've always used IEM's.

 

Since people are using a whole lot different pads on them, especially the Beyer pads that's where the recessed mids comments comes from. With the stock pads the ears sits so close to the driver and this helps for midrange being forward sounding from my experience as you lift the ears away from the drivers both extremes are more in focus, bass and highs, mids are the first to move further back as a result from increased distance between the ear and the driver, I've tested deepening pads on a lot of headphones and always got the same result, more V-shape sound / less warm / more hollow / distant mids the deeper the pads were made.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 4/5/13 at 9:54pm
post #914 of 1584
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Originally Posted by quisxx View Post

Another thing, maybe it's b/c my ears aren't "audiophile" quality, but I don't find the mids recessed at all, if anything they sound a bit forward to me. Only complaint is the slight veil that seems to cover them, Then again it could just be all cans sound like that to me (all 5 pairs i've tried sound like they have the veil, the m40's seem to have lees of the veil though) seeing as I've always used IEM's.

I hear the same as you. With the Hifiman velour pads the mids are still forward,

 

With the beyer pads however they're much more recessed.

post #915 of 1584
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I hear the same as you. With the Hifiman velour pads the mids are still forward,

 

With the beyer pads however they're much more recessed.

 

Are we talking of the $10 velour pads on head-direct's page? I wonder how they'd sound with the leather ones. :) When the stock pads gets too worn out I will probably have to order both the velours and the leather pads to see which I prefer, the Hifiman pads seems like the perfect replacement pads for these headphones. The depth looks to be about the same as my deepened stock pads with paper towel insert. With this simple mod I also notice slight improved sound quality in terms of soundstage/imaging and very slightly tamed highs spike around 9kHz area and the depth isn't too deep so that the midrange would sound recessed, just in-balance with the highs. If I make the insert thicker I will certainly start noticing that midrange becomes more recessed though.

 

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Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 4/7/13 at 7:31am
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