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post #1351 of 1638

Sucks man :( I'm not too sure whether to re-buy them especially if I have to buy a £45 pair of ear cushions for them to be comfortable.

post #1352 of 1638
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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post
 

Sucks man :( I'm not too sure whether to re-buy them especially if I have to buy a £45 pair of ear cushions for them to be comfortable.


Well there are other options, Shure 840 pads fits too for example. Or if you want to be cheap like me and simply mod the stockpads (I only listen at home so doesn't matter how it looks):

 

But in reality I don't use the stock pads with kitchen paper towel inserts because I'm cheap but because I'm just very heavily prioritizing the sound and after testing Hifiman leather pads on the Q40 with very bad experience in the sound changes it brought (yes I can easily tell differences with different pads) I just came to the conclusion the stock pads just have to sound near ideal with my setup and for my preferences so I haven't dared to spend any more on pads I probably won't like the sound changes they bring to the table after being so heavenly satisfied with the sound I'm hearing with this setup.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/15/13 at 4:00pm
post #1353 of 1638

Does anyone here ever game with these headphones....I'm on my second pair in less than a month and about to return it again...It all has to do with the right side speaker...the first one was almost completely blown after 3 days (very distorted sound in music or games)...my replacement pair seemed fine at first until i tried gaming (bf4) and i can already hear it sounding partially blown in the right speaker (wtf DAMIT)

 

And i really loved this dang headset otherwise...i got the clamp just right...replacement beyerdynamic ear pads..another 30 bucks...but i loved the feel...i guess I'll have to return it and just buy something different...its like every set BH photo caries have defective right speakers

 

Is there a different brand/model i can try to use that would work with the "beyerdynamic ear pads" as i'm not sure if can even return these after a month

post #1354 of 1638
Yeah, I'm a q40 gamer as well, seriously love these gems, and really hope they aren't discontinued.
post #1355 of 1638

Finally today I swapped out the original paper towel inserts underneath the stock pads I've used probably for like at least over 1 year as I've thought I've either gotten a significant hearing loss compared to how I used to hear Q40 before and now with new ones it sounds so much clearer & sparkly again, almost too much for me but that's okay, once it compresses a little it will be perfect! So yea the stock form Q40 in terms of timbre is slightly too mid-forward making it too smooth/warm. By increasing the distance to the driver you do balance it out, currently since the inserts haven't been compressed yet it's maybe tiny bit U-shape but once it settles in a little should be quite perfect again. It also does help soundstage a bit but all this I've concluded before and the reason I modded them this way, not due to comfort issues.

The original pair of stock pads are really on its last legs atm (I got a spare pair so I'm good but will use these as long as I can) and there's several cracks in the pads. The stock pads are good for ~2 years of heavy use (hrs a day).


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/17/13 at 8:05am
post #1356 of 1638

How much paper towel are you using? I've ended up using your method and I think I prefer it to most other pads, but I didn't add enough to increase space from my ear. I only added some in the back to help make a better seal behind my ears.


Edited by Thujone - 12/17/13 at 8:16am
post #1357 of 1638
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

How much paper towel are you using? I've ended up using your and I think I prefer it to most other pads, but I didn't add enough to increase space from my ear. I only added some in the back to help make a better seal behind my ears.


If you want a reasonably balanced mids / highs balance then I'd suggest cutting one piece of kitchen paper towel into 2x 1/3 pieces, I then fold/roll it so it becomes roughly 1 cm wide and stuff it underneath. You may find it will leave an 1 ~ 1½ cm gap underneath the pad so if it bothers you, you can cut some additional extension to fill the gap, it could potentially lead to worse isolation by not doing so (= less strong bass output). So it shouldn't be that thick by any means, the thicker you make it the brighter sound you get.

I don't know if doing it this way also changes it more significantly but the pads do have holes in it on the bottom side of the pads, 3 lines of holes so the 2 furthest back of holes will be covered doing this. To me it just sounds so much clearer and high quality compared to unmodded stock pads.

The comfort will be slightly compromised at first compared to when the paper settles in. The pads feel harder at first as the pads gets more compressed due to the thicker paper pieces putting more pressure on the pads.

Sound benefits:

- More neutral highs/mids balance, bass stays pretty similar (at first it may be tiny bit less in quantity until it settles in)

- Slightly improved soundstage

- Better separation / less smearing

In terms of cost I feel this modification already makes the headphone go from very good quality 100~$150 bass focused headphone into 250~$300 range. Another improvement you can get by changing the stock cable, it probably has slightly high impedance for a cable, I felt changing the stock cable into the cable bundled with Monoprice 8323 DJ headphones made also similar changes, slightly clearer, less smeared sounding but not to the extent modding the pads do.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/17/13 at 9:47am
post #1358 of 1638

I dunno what to do :( I just want a comfortable pair of closed cans that suit my music taste. The Q40s were bad for me in comfort but the sound was ideal for my music tastes.

post #1359 of 1638

Hi all,

 

I just bought the UE6000. HIGH expectations. But the funky headphones is full of problems/defects.

And the highly praised was ok...but definitely no bass canons. Thinking of returning it and buying the q40. Even with it's drawbacks.

The signature seems suited to me.

 

Only this morning i turned on the NC circuit on the UE6000 and I awaken adifferent beast. It changed everything.Great bass, bit overpowering. But still great seperation. No bass bloat or bleeds. Loving it.

 

Anyway still considering buying the Q40. But with how impressive the NCA UE 6000 sounds to me a little bit of doubt. So some questions. how is it seperation? Bass bloat or bleeds?

 

Anyone compared the Q40 to the UE6000 NCA?

 

Thanks appreciate your input.

post #1360 of 1638
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Originally Posted by tan1415 View Post

Hi all,

I just bought the UE6000. HIGH expectations. But the funky headphones is full of problems/defects.
And the highly praised was ok...but definitely no bass canons. Thinking of returning it and buying the q40. Even with it's drawbacks.
The signature seems suited to me.

Only this morning i turned on the NC circuit on the UE6000 and I awaken adifferent beast. It changed everything.Great bass, bit overpowering. But still great seperation. No bass bloat or bleeds. Loving it.

Anyway still considering buying the Q40. But with how impressive the NCA UE 6000 sounds to me a little bit of doubt. So some questions. how is it seperation? Bass bloat or bleeds?

Anyone compared the Q40 to the UE6000 NCA?

Thanks appreciate your input.

The Q40's will eat the UE6000 for breakfast smily_headphones1.gif

Honestly, I found the Q40's to have much better bass both quantity and quality wise. I still find the UE6000 to be great travelling companions though.
post #1361 of 1638
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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post

I dunno what to do frown.gif I just want a comfortable pair of closed cans that suit my music taste. The Q40s were bad for me in comfort but the sound was ideal for my music tastes.

Ultimate comfort addition is Alpha pads. Cost is $59. To my ears it makes the bass and overall sound improve. You will fall in love with the Q40's again.

Low cost improvement alternative is the Shure 840 pads. $15 and way better than stock.
Edited by Oregonian - 12/17/13 at 7:20pm
post #1362 of 1638

The velours silver beyers is the same price as the Shure 840 pads here. Which is better?

60$ almost doubles the price of the headphone. Will start with teh tissue mod I guess.

 

How is the highs? Is it really cutoff?

post #1363 of 1638

If you don't mind the leakage, i would go with the Beyer DT770 Velour Pads (NOT the pleather ones, they're crap, really). Most comfortable <3  If you want good Isolation, i would GO with the Shure SRH840 Pads. They're almost as comfortable as the Beyers and you have pretty good isolation ;D

 

They sound equally good, no matter which one you choose. with the Beyer Pads, it sounds a little bit more Open. With Shure Pads, the bass iss a little bit more crisp. I like both variations ;D


Edited by Natsukawa - 12/18/13 at 4:53am
post #1364 of 1638

Keep in mind that DT880/990 pads are NOT the same as DT770 pads. DT770 pads make the bass super bloated IMO. Haven't tried the DT880/990 pads.

post #1365 of 1638
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

Keep in mind that DT880/990 pads are NOT the same as DT770 pads. DT770 pads make the bass super bloated IMO. Haven't tried the DT880/990 pads.

I agree with Thujone on this. I read a lot of post stating that the Beyer DT770 pads should be a obvious addition to the Q40's before I got them so I ordered both at the same time. Altough the comfort was incredible with the DT770 pads I did not like the change in the sound at all. Given personal preferences some people will find the sound with the Beyer pads great and some will not (like me), but one should be aware that there will be a pretty big change in the sound.

 

Edit: I'm now using the Hifiman velour pads, I think they sound great and are very comfortable.


Edited by peter123 - 12/18/13 at 5:07am
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