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post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by hciman77 View Post
I can understand the post DA stage adding substantial changes, that makes sense but I dont quite see how two chips that measure so similarly, have such similar topology and are electrically the same could be so different. The waveforms recovered by the two chips would be indistinguishable.
Right, well there must be some difference between them...at least in the implementation.
post #17 of 26
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Right, well there must be some difference between them...at least in the implementation.
That may be the case, but if so then it may be that the chip itself is not making the difference, i.e not a good criteria for choice. Sounds like a job for Mr Blind test

You still enjoying your PS1 ?
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by hciman77 View Post
That may be the case, but if so then it may be that the chip itself is not making the difference, i.e not a good criteria for choice. Sounds like a job for Mr Blind test

You still enjoying your PS1 ?
Yep - the PS1 moved downstairs but it's still giving me joy. Pretty amazing for 10 bucks.
post #19 of 26
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Yep - the PS1 moved downstairs but it's still giving me joy. Pretty amazing for 10 bucks.
Yep, I just picked up an old Onkyo DX1400 from eBay for $9.99, analog outputs only but very nice, there are some nice bargains out there if you look hard and dont get put off by the low prices
post #20 of 26
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Yep, I just picked up an old Onkyo DX1400 from eBay for $9.99, analog outputs only but very nice, there are some nice bargains out there if you look hard and dont get put off by the low prices

Is the Onkyo any good or just a cheap 'n cheerful antique piece? They got one here for 15 bucks!

Check it out here!

They got a Technics SL-PG100, got one of those at home along with a pair of Technics SL-PG390s I retired them when I got the Marantz CD-5001
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by Big Tone View Post
Is the Onkyo any good or just a cheap 'n cheerful antique piece? They got one here for 15 bucks!

Check it out here!
Personally, I rather like the Onkyo, it has become my main source. I havent done any serious (i.e blind) listening comparisons vs my two other sources, but it makes a joyful noise for me. I am planning to plot its FR over the weekend, I have discovered that it is measurably different from my Marantz both in average overall output levels (this is according to Audacity)
- 0.7db down but also when you plot its intensity in the audible range vs the Marantz it can be anywhere from 0.3 to 1.9 db different at specific frequencies, without plotting both FRs it is impossible to tell which one deviates more from linear, but that is my project for the weekend. I will create a white noise sample, Analyse the spectrum for this , then burn the sample to CD-R and play it back on both and record it, then I can see how different they are against each other and the baseline. Of course there may be some loss going through the internal soundcard but one can get a picture of relative differences better.

I should caution that I am somewhat towards the "sources make minimal difference" end of the music lover spectrum and, well not many people share my world view, it doesnt make me wrong per se
post #22 of 26
I was about to get a CD5001 and I saw severals of you guys saying they were disappointed with it. I take credit of what you're saying as I was about to replace my Micromega Stage 1 with this Marantz, and I assume I would have quite disappointed too.

Now I'm still interested in the CD6002 as I love Marantz sound.
Since I was near to get a CD6000 sometime ago, I'm still in search of a good player from this brand.

Does anybody could have auditionned the 6002 ?
Because I hope that the difference between the 5001 and 6002 is bigger than the only (useless ?...) MP3/WMA support feature we get on the 6002...

I've already saw these various additional different features in the Comparative at the end of the 2008 catalog :

Customized Components (yeah well...)
Symmetric circuit layout (I thought it was on both, it seems not)
Shottky diodes
Separated rectifier circuit for analogue and digital circuitry (now that can be interesting)
and a stronger chassis
and of course, the DAC.

So any experience with it ?

edit : oh yes, does anybody can advise me another nice cd player in the same range of price and quality, just in case ?
Something to fit with a Nad amp and Celestion 2000 speakers (wonderful band-twearters mids !).
post #23 of 26
I've been running in my Marantz CD6002 for three days now. I haven't had a dedicated CD player for a few years now, using a Pioneer DV656A instead. The CD6002 is definitely streets ahead. The sound is much more open, with a wider sound stage and deeper, and better controlled bass. It is playing through a Myryad MI120 integrated amplifier and a pair of Kef Q35 floorstanding speakers, and the sound is beautiful I haven't listened to it through headphones yet, but will do soon.
post #24 of 26
Sarchi: Jfyi, Stereoplay mag over here has reviewed it in their recent issue. Inside pic looks promising - nice layout. Measurements also seem promising, 'cause unlike most mid-range Marantz players before, the 6002 is now down to 150 ps of jitter (measured by the Miller method). Before, Marantz players in this class only were in the 500 ps range. Jitter spectrum graph also looks good to me, so does the rest of all the usual measurements (e.g. SNR (112 dB, btw...)).

Sonically, they seem to like it, although finding it a bit on the lean, analytic side. Sound quality rating is 53 points on their scale - the CD5001OSE got 51 points not too long ago. And iirc, the good old CD6000OSE got some 52 points (sometime in 1999, I think...). Top rated players at the moment are Burmester 069 and Naim CD555 (plus PS power supply) with 65 points each.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
post #25 of 26
I have had the CD 6002 for a couple of weeks now and it sounds really good. I use it primarily through my Marantz 1090 amp to a couple of Energy speakers. What surprised me a bit is that the headphone out is rather good compared to the Sony CD players I have tried. The analog sound quality is pretty damn good.
post #26 of 26
I've tried the headphone out, and it is quite good.
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