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post #16 of 39
1/1/08 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by Borg166 View Post
I'm getting the iAudio 7 in the mail tomorrow...

By the way, if Sony started to cater to audiophiles by putting decent amps into their MP3 Walkman line, they would absolutely kill the competition because the EQ on those players is already ridiculous ...
Congrats,I hope you like it. I can't imagine needing more in the way of EQ and audio tweaks than what the i7 offers. Using mine with ER4 & ER6 I can make them sound however I want and the nice thing is that there are 10 custom EQ presets that store all of the audio tweaks.
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post #17 of 39
1/2/08 at 5:44am
My iA7 should be at my house by Friday .. I can't WAIT to hear it
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post #18 of 39
1/2/08 at 3:03pm
Thread Starter 
UPDATE: Got my iAudio 7 8GB for Christmas... Cold sound? Haha it the biggest joke I ever heard, no EQ it sounds perfect.. really good player



Regards
Jacob
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post #19 of 39
1/2/08 at 3:43pm
Yah, I'm not exactly sure how the cowons started to get pegged as cold sounding daps - that seems to be something rather new.

In any case i just got the d2 and it's not cold for a dap - went with the d2 simply because the SD slot makes file transfer a breeze
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post #20 of 39
1/2/08 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by jrosenth View Post
Yah, I'm not exactly sure how the cowons started to get pegged as cold sounding daps - that seems to be something rather new.
Yea I've not found that to be true either. So many ways to tweak the sound signature on these things its crazy.
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post #21 of 39
1/2/08 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by bubbagump View Post
Yea I've not found that to be true either. So many ways to tweak the sound signature on these things its crazy.
I find it neutral but just ever so slightly on the cold sound. This is without any sound effects and flat eq.

I like the neutral airy sound though, but really good warmness is awsome too.

This doesn't meen that I don't like it, I really do, especially with the KSC75, which I find to almost have synergy with the D2. Nice and airy with tight bass and sparkly hights. The only thing I find the D2 to lack in my view is hard punch in the low bass. Not even mach3bass satisfy me.

If anyone have a solution to this I'm all ears.
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post #22 of 39
1/3/08 at 8:08am
Yep. Flat-settings, no effects, and with most phones used to A/B with other DAPs can help you find out if a player is "warm" or "cold" to your ears. It's all relative, but not without some merit; I remember seeing a few graphs where the D2's feedback was slightly rolled off on the low-end, which is what a lot of people will unanimously tag as "cold".

It's not just bass-response, though.

Compared to my sister's sansa clip, the mid-range is a bit tighter (which is a plus for some music, minus for others) and the higher-end a little harsh. As-stated, a good pair of phones can fix this in a jiff, or work with it.

Henmyr, I usually EQ frequencies 500 and 650hz about 2-3 notches down, cascading to the left to make it a little punchier. Otherwise it's perfectly good, to my ears; any lower and the high-end can get a little ratty as you raise the volume.
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post #23 of 39
1/3/08 at 8:01pm
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Originally Posted by LTC View Post
Ok thx guys, I'll take the i7 then
But really why is there so many fans on the Sony A818?
Is it really better than any other player out there?
I would have choosen it, but it doesn't play FLAC, and almost all my songs are encoded in FLAC


Regards
Jacob
Because Sony actually make stellar players. If you're afraid of 'cold' (or accurate) sound you should have a look at a Sony player. (Or pair your new i7 with Sennheiser phones).
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post #24 of 39
1/12/08 at 10:07pm
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Originally Posted by GreatDane View Post
Congrats,I hope you like it. I can't imagine needing more in the way of EQ and audio tweaks than what the i7 offers. Using mine with ER4 & ER6 I can make them sound however I want and the nice thing is that there are 10 custom EQ presets that store all of the audio tweaks.
I finally received my iAudio 7 and it's very clear now that what was missing from the Sony MP3 Walkman line is a decent internal amp.

I listened to a few tracks on my i7 and the same tracks on the Sony S616F and the Sony player sounded very weak in comparison (Senn PX-100 headphones were used for testing both players). The i7's powerful amp sounds much closer to the full, rich sound that I used to experience with my portable CD players.

I don't even need to tweak the EQ on my i7 because the default EQ, BBE and Mach3Bass settings are perfect just the way they are. Cowon has officially won me over and Sony will have to start putting decent amps in their players if they want my business in the future.
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post #25 of 39
1/12/08 at 10:48pm
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Originally Posted by Henmyr View Post
The only thing I find the D2 to lack in my view is hard punch in the low bass. Not even mach3bass satisfy me.

If anyone have a solution to this I'm all ears.
I found that my headpone amp added that last little bit of lowend drive my cans needed. Even though the i7 has a good internal amp it didn't compare to the dedicated headphone amp. Low end went from 75% to 100%. IMO YMMV

Oh, but I like a neutral/accurate sound (i.e. no eq or effects or boost) so my solution might not do it for you, but I did feel the amp brought the low end up inline with the rest of the audio spectrum.
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post #26 of 39
1/12/08 at 11:31pm
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Originally Posted by athos56 View Post
I found that my headpone amp added that last little bit of lowend drive my cans needed. Even though the i7 has a good internal amp it didn't compare to the dedicated headphone amp. Low end went from 75% to 100%. IMO YMMV
I just finished building my own High Performance mini^3 amp, and I agree with you. My i7 sounds a little bit better when I am using the mini^3 - not a night and day improvement, but an improvement nevertheless.

Will
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post #27 of 39
1/13/08 at 7:17pm
I've been listening to my iA7 w/PX100's. The combo is abit on the dark side, not alot of high end brightness. Decent mids & mid-bass though, but not of subbass punchyness.

I'll have to do some listening with my CMoy w/OPA2107 and see how they sound.

Also my FX66's also seemed abit dark too but had good subbass punch.
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post #28 of 39
1/13/08 at 7:30pm
I use my D2 with Grado SR60s, ksc 75s, modded Marshmallows, PX100s, and Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80s. All unamped (for now). All of them sound fantastic in their own way.

The D2 has such an amazing amp, they can power my 770s astonishingly well at volume levels of 25-35.

The first time I plugged in my Beyers to test them I didn't expect what I heard. They still have the lush, deep incredible bass that these cans are known for, and sound remarkably "full". There doesn't seem to be anything glaring missing from the sound straight out of the D2. This is with a flat EQ and all effects OFF.

And for the record, I always say that the D2 has a "neutral" sound signature, with no real emphasis on any frequency. If you can't get enough bass from the D2 then you really need different cans. With my px100s or Beyers I can get more bass than anyone could ever want.
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post #29 of 39
2/26/08 at 7:36pm
Sorry for bumping.

I heard that the output power on the D2 is 74 mW, and the iAudio 7 "only" 53 mW. Is this correct? Will this be a huge difference?
Which one to choose? My IEM's is the UE SFI 5 Pro.
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post #30 of 39
2/26/08 at 8:13pm
Not an issue with the s.f 5 pro. Buy the one you like.
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