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Random Thoughts: So....I have Klipsch Custom 2s. (some Ultrasone comments as well)

post #1 of 16
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I've been secretly in possession of a pair of Klipsch Custom 2s that I bought off of Klipsch's website with the now-expired coupon code. I've had them for almost two weeks...but (besides the fact Head-Fi was down) I've been afraid to tell you guys this because I know you guys would want a review, like how I was the guinea pig who reviewed the DJ1s.

Frankly, I'm really not sure what to think of them...and since I'm the first I don't want to be unfair to Klipsch.

I've owned phones from Sennheiser, Grado, Koss, Etymotic, Ultrasone, and Stax. However, I have not really listened to any of them (except Ultrasone) in a very long time. In college I've essentially downgraded to a Ultrasone DJ1 + iPhone setup, although I have a uber-Stax system gathering dust back home, I have not heard it in over a year. I really, really, love the Ultrasone's, but I wonder if I were to re-listen to my older/ more expensive systems if I would miss them or not. I do remember briefly re-listening to my Grado SR325i's, and preferring the cheaper Ultrasones.

Basically, the $169 Ultrasone's are my reference, but they are an unusual reference given the S-Logic technology, which is kind of the opposite of IEM fire-directly-in-ear technology.

I remember liking the Etymotic ER4P's sound a lot, however, they were uncomfortable and eventually broke on me. Great sound, bad construction.

Here is one thing I can say about the Klipsch's with certainty - they are bette r built. The cord does a great job (comparatively) of handling microphonics. Also, the design makes it so you know how far to stick them, with the Ety's I never knew how far to shove. The Klipsch can only be shoved so far by design, so you know when to stop.

Also, they are very comfortable - but you have to experiment with the gels like they say. The Ety's were never comfortable. I wore them on a plane and isolation was fine.

Okay....what you have all been waiting for - how do they sound? Well...worse than I remember the more expensive ER4's being, but besides that I'm confused. I don't know....when I first heard them they sounded ridiculously BRIGHT. However, the Ultrasone's are known for rolled-off highs, so I don't know if it is simply a matter of preference/reference. I do know that, over all, I prefer the sound of the Ultasones. There sonic signatures, however, are polar opposites - the Ultrasones fire indirectly and have a large soundstage and supposedly rolled-off highs, the Klipsch's fire super-directly into the ear. I noticed a staggering difference in sibilance, the Klipsch really emphasized it in comparison. It was rather painful at first, but I don't notice it as much anymore.

I REALLY wish I had some Grados with me for comparison, because they seem brighter than what I remember my SR-325i's being. I don't know if these phones really are that crazy bright or if my ears are playing tricks on me. They seem less bright now, but it could be my mind adjusting. The Ultrasone's now seem dark now if comparison, but I still prefer them. If only I had Grados on me....then I would know.

Bass is very nice and controlled, but the quantity is less than the Ultrasone's but equal in quality to other phones I've heard. I don't think the bass will disappoint.

Midrange is hard to judge, due to the possibly over-bright highs. It sounds less open and more nasal than the Ultrasone's.

If this review sounds conflicted and awkward, that is intentional. I wish I had some de-facto bright phones (like my SR-325's) so I could see if the highs are really that out of whack when compared to highly-regarded bright phones.
post #2 of 16
I think Klipsch are a company known for their bright highs, with their 'horn tweeters' and stuff. These do sound very interesting though.
post #3 of 16
Thanks for the great (and honest) review! I'll be very interested to hear your thoughts when you get a chance to hear again some other bright 'phones (Etys, for example, in order to compare highs and midrange).
post #4 of 16
Maybe they need more burn in? How many hours do you have on them? I'm curious as I am looking forward to the release of the Custom3s.
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by cardude View Post
Maybe they need more burn in? How many hours do you have on them? I'm curious as I am looking forward to the release of the Custom3s.
That's what I would suggest, a little more burn-in (maybe 100 to 200hrs, or more), each IEM and headphones are diffrent. Not to hijack your thread, but I purchased the IMAGE and I've own the E2c,ER4ptos,ER4S,Shure E-4,E500, Senn CX300,HD580,KSC75 and can say that the IMAGE is the best IEM I've heard (IMO).
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by freeone-j View Post
That's what I would suggest, a little more burn-in (maybe 100 to 200hrs, or more), each IEM and headphones are diffrent. Not to hijack your thread, but I purchased the IMAGE and I've own the E2c,ER4ptos,ER4S,Shure E-4,E500, Senn CX300,HD580,KSC75 and can say that the IMAGE is the best IEM I've heard (IMO).
Can you elaborate more, please? I'm very curious.
post #7 of 16
I listen to all kinds of music that ranges from Folk,pop,rock,soul (R&B),Funk,Jazz, a little of everything except maybe not classical. The Image excels in everything I throw at them. The other day I was listening to a piece by Curtis Mayfield (which was a live album) and I felt like I was sitting in the audience and Curtis was ALIVE (Curtis is no longer with us) but not right then while I was listening! It was like he was right there and the crowd was clapping, the bongos playing, funky guitars. Do you know how it is when your sitting at a live performance and the crowd is caught up in the moment and you can feel the atmospere. I was listening to Curtis sing Superfly and there was something that I had never noticed, but a lot of the words and phrases were improvised. Yes Curtis was ALIVE for that moment. So that is why I recommend the IMAGE earphones, simply the best IEMs I've heard.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by freeone-j View Post
I listen to all kinds of music that ranges from Folk,pop,rock,soul (R&B),Funk,Jazz, a little of everything except maybe not classical. The Image excels in everything I throw at them. The other day I was listening to a piece by Curtis Mayfield (which was a live album) and I felt like I was sitting in the audience and Curtis was ALIVE (Curtis is no longer with us) but not right then while I was listening! It was like he was right there and the crowd was clapping, the bongos playing, funky guitars. Do you know how it is when your sitting at a live performance and the crowd is caught up in the moment and you can feel the atmospere. I was listening to Curtis sing Superfly and there was something that I had never noticed, but a lot of the words and phrases were improvised. Yes Curtis was ALIVE for that moment. So that is why I recommend the IMAGE earphones, simply the best IEMs I've heard.
Thanks for your description. May you please tell me a more tangible comparisons between Klipsch Image and other phones you have? For instance, how does the high, low and mid of Image compare to other phones? Can Image produce clear and accurate sound as much of your ER4 and E500? These questions would be more helpful to me as I am also tempted to buy this pair.
post #9 of 16
A ? Why is it that the custom 2 will benifit maybe from burn-in...but the e500 doesn't? I also have a pair of custom 2 and am just not real impressed right out of the box. I am a klipsch fan of other things...have an i-groove...computer speakers and a home theatre system from them. So I want to like these..I just didn't know if burn in would make a difference. Will have to try...

Just a side note..one very impressive aspect of the custom 2 is the size and the fit. They are very small. Way smaller than the e500, can't imagine how small the Image must be.
post #10 of 16

Air Seal?

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Originally Posted by Czilla9000 View Post
I've been secretly in possession of a pair of Klipsch Custom 2s that I bought off of Klipsch's website with the now-expired coupon code.....

Frankly, I'm really not sure what to think of them...and since I'm the first I don't want to be unfair to Klipsch....

..., they are very comfortable - but you have to experiment with the gels like they say....

...How do they sound? Well...worse than I remember the more expensive ER4's being, but besides that I'm confused. I don't know....when I first heard them they sounded ridiculously BRIGHT. However, the Ultrasone's are known for rolled-off highs, so I don't know if it is simply a matter of preference/reference. I do know that, over all, I prefer the sound of the Ultasones. There sonic signatures, however, are polar opposites - the Ultrasones fire indirectly and have a large soundstage and supposedly rolled-off highs, the Klipsch's fire super-directly into the ear. I noticed a staggering difference in sibilance, the Klipsch really emphasized it in comparison. It was rather painful at first, but I don't notice it as much anymore.

I REALLY wish I had some Grados with me for comparison, because they seem brighter than what I remember my SR-325i's being. I don't know if these phones really are that crazy bright or if my ears are playing tricks on me. They seem less bright now, but it could be my mind adjusting. The Ultrasone's now seem dark now if comparison, but I still prefer them. If only I had Grados on me....then I would know.

Bass is very nice and controlled, but the quantity is less than the Ultrasone's but equal in quality to other phones I've heard. I don't think the bass will disappoint.

Midrange is hard to judge, due to the possibly over-bright highs. It sounds less open and more nasal than the Ultrasone's.

If this review sounds conflicted and awkward, that is intentional. I wish I had some de-facto bright phones (like my SR-325's) so I could see if the highs are really that out of whack when compared to highly-regarded bright phones.
Czilla9000,
Interesting review...I am wonder if you are confident that you got a good air seal on the ear tips? I don't mean to insult, but my expectation would be that there may be too much bass if anything. So I am a little confused about your response.

I will admit that we had a person at our company that sweared that there was no bass for 1 month until he tilted the eartips up and a little forward. Now he can't believe how much bass there is. You might want to experiment more with the bendy wire. Hope this helps...
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by freeone-j View Post
I listen to all kinds of music that ranges from Folk,pop,rock,soul (R&B),Funk,Jazz, a little of everything except maybe not classical. The Image excels in everything I throw at them. The other day I was listening to a piece by Curtis Mayfield (which was a live album) and I felt like I was sitting in the audience and Curtis was ALIVE (Curtis is no longer with us) but not right then while I was listening! It was like he was right there and the crowd was clapping, the bongos playing, funky guitars. Do you know how it is when your sitting at a live performance and the crowd is caught up in the moment and you can feel the atmospere. I was listening to Curtis sing Superfly and there was something that I had never noticed, but a lot of the words and phrases were improvised. Yes Curtis was ALIVE for that moment. So that is why I recommend the IMAGE earphones, simply the best IEMs I've heard.
I was getting a little worried reading this thread that Klipsch might not be living up to expectations until I read your post on the IMAGE. Now on to waiting for the Custom-3, which should sound even better than the IMAGE.
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by PeterDLai View Post
I was getting a little worried reading this thread that Klipsch might not be living up to expectations until I read your post on the IMAGE. Now on to waiting for the Custom-3, which should sound even better than the IMAGE.

Yeh Peter, I'll also be one of the first in line for the Custom-3. I know they will be awesome! That's right, AWESOME!!!
post #13 of 16
I'm personally quite interested in the Custom-1's.

I wonder how they compare to similar priced IEM's like the E2C, ER6i, SF 3 etc.
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by fraseyboy View Post
I'm personally quite interested in the Custom-1's.

I wonder how they compare to similar priced IEM's like the E2C, ER6i, SF 3 etc.

I'm also interested to know about the other Custom Series PM's, can anyone weigh in?
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by Kokofong View Post
Thanks for your description. May you please tell me a more tangible comparisons between Klipsch Image and other phones you have? For instance, how does the high, low and mid of Image compare to other phones? Can Image produce clear and accurate sound as much of your ER4 and E500? These questions would be more helpful to me as I am also tempted to buy this pair.
I can't say that I'm qualified to give detailed review, the Image highs are not harsh or overly bright, has fairly good extension in the upper frequencies. I would say that they have warmth, the mids and vocals are lush w/a realistic sound signature. The mid bass and lower end is full, accurate and in control. They offer clarity and detail and also I noticed that they are very forgiving on bad recorded tracks. There, thats the best your going to get from me, but Klipsch offers a 30day money back if you are not happy with them, which to me says alot.

Freeone-j
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