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Originally Posted by mrarroyo  While it is bad to post good things about a product w/o having listened to it it is much worse to criticize a product. Lately some users have taken positions criticizing a product based solely on the specs.
Even the best components can be made to sound poorly if the designer/builder does a poor job. On the other hand a group of less expensive components which is well designed and well put together can sound fantastic. So I do have an issue w/ negative comments when the poster has not listened to a given piece of gear. Just my $0.02
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Originally Posted by n_maher You're going to have to explain to me the problem in presenting an evaluation based on product specifications. That'd be like saying that you can't judge how fast a car is based on reported 1/4 mile and 0-60 times. While I agree that the components in the circuit don't tell the whole story they certainly tell part of it. It is certainly a little different between amps and headphones in this regard, some measure of how an amp will sound can be gathered from it's circuit and components. It's impossible to judge a headphone this way.
Example: a Cmoy-type circuit, regardless of how well implemented is always going to have sonic limitations based on it's current delivery and voltage swing ability. There's no way around that.
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Originally Posted by jp11801 Miguel, this is a great example of selective reading, Nate pointed out that specs were not definative but informative and certian designs that have been proven to be comprimised are not going to soundthe best. Also not sure what even your point is with the headphone paragraph it was made crystal clear that HP specs are not as informative. I for one commend members with the technical knowledge I lack pointing out design flaws or MOT BS.
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John, if you look at the 1st post quoted above you will see that my contention was that simply discarding or praising a product on specs is not IMO the right thing to do.
Note: I see I left a word out of my initial post (53). The word I left out is: "
solely" and it goes after "based" and before "on". I will add said word to post 53. One word omitted can make a big difference.
Yes specs can give you a point to compare two units but they IMO do not and should not take the place of actually listening to the gear. In that first post you will note I wrote that good components can produce poor sound if the designer/builder does a crappy job, I also wrote that on the other hand a good designer/builder can make run of the mill parts sound good.
You can read what Nate wrote (quoted above for ease) he started the rebuttal on my post and made statements about specs for evaluation. If that is his opinion so be it, an opinion it is and by definition no better nor worse than somebody else's opinion.
I don't understand your statement about "selective reading" which IMO is un-called for. I did not do selective reading, heck I posted the entire post.
Regardless, I stand by my statement. Specifications by themselves do not tell the whole story. You must listen to a piece of gear to see if it is of your liking.
