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post #451 of 3000
I'm current just in the information gathering-process of diyModding a 5.5G...

If I remove the two Z-caps and solder on wires straight from there to the blackgates, do I need some other capacitors than suggested?

(I know nothing about electronics, hence I will just buy the right parts and bring them to my geeky pops when I go visit him )
post #452 of 3000
Thread Starter 
When you desolder the Z caps, you bring wires from there to the dock, which is done by removing the L2 and L3 inductors and soldering the wires there. The Black Gates go into the dock connector, and from there it goes to your amp.

edit: To actually answer the question, no you don't need any more capacitors after getting the Black Gates.
post #453 of 3000
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Originally Posted by joneeboi View Post
When you desolder the Z caps, you bring wires from there to the dock, which is done by removing the L2 and L3 inductors and soldering the wires there. The Black Gates go into the dock connector, and from there it goes to your amp.

edit: To actually answer the question, no you don't need any more capacitors after getting the Black Gates.
Sorry, I was being vague. I actually meant if I drill a hole in the side of my iPod and put the bg caps on the outside. Like the RWA special:



I wouldnt mind the "tail" at all.


edit: Great thread btw
post #454 of 3000
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So you want to have a pigtail on the 5.5G? Sure, that works. From Z caps to BGs to plug. My only caution is that you ground your plug/jack before calling it finished. That's me, ishtob and CAvanessia bringing you this checkpoint

If you pigtail your diyMod, you may want to keep with a small line of capacitors. We are especially fortunate with the NX Hi-Q series because they are nonpolar and sound film-like; and they're small to boot. You can use pretty much any capacitor you want, but the NX Hi-Q is a very good candidate. I'm still waiting on my Vitamin Qs, and we're still waiting for vvs_75's report on his Auricaps. Plus you could check out what ALO is doing with the VCaps, Auricaps, and what EFN did with his iMod.
post #455 of 3000
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Originally Posted by joneeboi View Post
So you want to have a pigtail on the 5.5G? Sure, that works. From Z caps to BGs to plug. My only caution is that you ground your plug/jack before calling it finished. That's me, ishtob and CAvanessia bringing you this checkpoint

If you pigtail your diyMod, you may want to keep with a small line of capacitors. We are especially fortunate with the NX Hi-Q series because they are nonpolar and sound film-like; and they're small to boot. You can use pretty much any capacitor you want, but the NX Hi-Q is a very good candidate. I'm still waiting on my Vitamin Qs, and we're still waiting for vvs_75's report on his Auricaps. Plus you could check out what ALO is doing with the VCaps, Auricaps, and what EFN did with his iMod.
Great, thanks. I've read everything on iMod incl V-Caps and Auricaps, I will look into EFN now.

edit: Holy sh*t, he's got a rocket attached to his iPod *drool*
post #456 of 3000
Isn't the sound signal compromised going through the dock?
post #457 of 3000
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Isn't the sound signal compromised going through the dock?
I highly doubt so(there are some Apple's internal wiring that the signal has to pass through though, what do you guys think?), but I might want to wire it to the headphone out of mine sometime soon... but that's gonna make my ultimate link silver reference redundant... nvm, should be able to sell it off. Still jonee, where do wire it if we're going for the headphone out???
post #458 of 3000
thx for the link, Jon... the seller em self got not too good feedback, maybe i search for another seller to bought from...
post #459 of 3000
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I highly doubt so(there are some Apple's internal wiring that the signal has to pass through though, what do you guys think?), but I might want to wire it to the headphone out of mine sometime soon... but that's gonna make my ultimate link silver reference redundant... nvm, should be able to sell it off. Still jonee, where do wire it if we're going for the headphone out???
That depends on which model you're talking about. I believe you can just cut the traces leading up to the headphone outs and solder straight to the solder pads for the headphone outs for most. For the 4G, that should be fairly obvious, as it would also be for the nano 1G, I imagine. The 5G is a bit different, as you have to route the wires past the metal frame, which will undoubtedly mess with the final closure of the iPod. You may be able to hack away at the iPod's board, but that's up to you as it's multilayered and you can't always see what you're sawing away. I assume you're talking about the 4G, since I think I've seen pictures of you having one. Just cut the traces leading up to the headphone jack route wires back from the BGs up to the headphone jack. Good news is it's already grounded for you. How thoughtful of Apple.
post #460 of 3000
Bleh... my dad seems unwilling to do wire it to headphone out for me hehe. I think the wiring from board to dock should not affect SQ i guess?
post #461 of 3000

wire guage

so i guess the best wire to use is 30awg with silver coating
for signal path to the dock pins 2 & 3
correct me if i am wrong
post #462 of 3000
Some people don't necessarily like the effects of silver.. the differences are so small though, that it may take you quiet a while and a few different cables of experimentation till you figure out what you like most (I don't suggest this mod is where you try them all out though.. maybe some interconnects or something). I personally haven't figured out what I like most, so I just try use high quality stuff. Not over the wall expensive but not flimsy and cheap.. so, I'm not sure what's 'best', but that wire will probably be satisfactory
post #463 of 3000
I actually did a test with a supposedly low quality copper interconnect about $17 and $100 silver interconnect just now... the effects, to tell the truth... are very minor and hard to pick out if there was any. Because these wirings are so short, there will be hardly any signal loss/disruption along the way. It's not like you're dragging a wire from your living room to your bedroom. The difference they make, after finally being convinced by my father, I conclude, is hardly audible in MOST cases. (I've never heard supposedly really exceptional ones, but my interconnect should be good - Ultimate Link Silver Reference) At the most, I'd say, there was a little higher clarity on certain tracks. I sound so skeptical for a DIYer =\ But still if I get my hands on some (supposedly zzz) good wires, I will try and get my dad to change the copper wires that I used in my mod for me, and hopefully make myself an interconnect at the same time. Music often sounds better simply cause you spent the cash on it and you know it's there even though the diff is minor minor minor hehe
post #464 of 3000
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Music often sounds better simply cause you spent the cash on it and you know it's there even though the diff is minor minor minor hehe
Very true! I hear people do this all the time
post #465 of 3000
So what the reply what gauges of wire to use that will not affect the click wheel? 28awg or 30awg ?
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