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post #1696 of 2490
Based on some of things you have said, I'm guessing that "messing with iPods" is a little more then just a hobby for you. The USB adapter would probably be a very worthwhile investment considering what you have already invested.

Gear mentioned in this thread:

Apple 30 GB iPod with Video Playback Black (5th Generation)
iPod Nano Headset Music Player
Apple iPod classic 160 GB Black (6th Generation) OLD MODEL
post #1697 of 2490
So I'm thinking about ditching my 5.5g iPod for a 4g and modding it. But I neeeeeeed more storage, would anyone be able to tell me the biggest drive I can fit in a 4g ipod? I found a 250GB Western Digital but I'm not sure if it will go.

*edit* Don't think I looked for 5 mins and gave up. I looked for a bit and I'm still reading, just thought I would tap into the wonderful insight of the diy people.
post #1698 of 2490
Thread Starter 
Why the switch from 5.5G to 4G? The biggest drives I've seen for the 4G are 60GB. If you went with the 5.5G, you could go much higher than that. I don't know if the 160GB drives from the 6G would work, but I know there are 120GB drives that work with the 5.5G.
post #1699 of 2490
odd...

I submitted a reply, but now I don't see it.

I agree with Joneboi, with one other point...

It's my understanding, based on other's comments not personal experience, that the Wolfson DAC in the 5th gen iPods is a little better then the 4th gens. The only advantage I see to modding a 4th gen is that you can put the caps inside the case. If this is your motivation, then nevermind
post #1700 of 2490
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Originally Posted by joneeboi View Post
Why the switch from 5.5G to 4G? The biggest drives I've seen for the 4G are 60GB. If you went with the 5.5G, you could go much higher than that. I don't know if the 160GB drives from the 6G would work, but I know there are 120GB drives that work with the 5.5G.
Main reason: I'd like to diymod it and keep all of the guts inside and not have to use a ALO cable or something similar. I was going to wait for Toshiba to release their 240GB drive that will fit in a 5.5g, it was announced in Sept. but I have yet to see it.
post #1701 of 2490
Thread Starter 
You could use a 64GB CF and leave the caps inside.

And if anyone is interested, the iPod dock breakout board at SparkFun Electronics is back in stock. Give it a whirl. I have a breakout board that I got from Ridax. SparkFun has other really awesome knick-knacks, so order one or the other depending on what you want to pick up along with it.
post #1702 of 2490
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Originally Posted by joneeboi View Post
You could use a 64GB CF and leave the caps inside.

And if anyone is interested, the iPod dock breakout board at SparkFun Electronics is back in stock. Give it a whirl. I have a breakout board that I got from Ridax. SparkFun has other really awesome knick-knacks, so order one or the other depending on what you want to pick up along with it.
Where does one find a 64GB CF, google didn't turn up much. I didn't see any on ebay or newegg either.

I wish I could rockbox the new classics.
post #1703 of 2490
yeah at this stage the 120gb is the largest available. the 240 have been 'coming soon' at rapid repair for ages and when they do you'll be looking at a few hundred dollars. i'm not sure if the logic board on the 4G will allow anything that big.

BTW guys I got it all sorted out. my flex cables arrived today and i'm up and working again. I found a bur on the 120gb drives connector and that must've damaged all three cables I had, when I tried it out in them. I tell you what though I wish I could find somewhere to buy those little brown plastic bits that clamp the battery cable in place to the connector. they break all too easily and are easily lost too. i've used little bits of plastic or cardboard as a substitute before but would like a better solution (other than being more careful of course). but I still may invest in a usb/ziff/ide convertor for future use; anyone know where I might get one??
post #1704 of 2490
I have try to use an Ipod HD 5G on a special box adaptater (Zif to USB) to use the hard drive has a regular external HD...
The hard drive is read by the os system , but never run under window.
If someone knows why, it 'll be usefull.
Thank.
post #1705 of 2490
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Originally Posted by Rico67 View Post
I have try to use an Ipod HD 5G on a special box adaptater (Zif to USB) to use the hard drive has a regular external HD...
The hard drive is read by the os system , but never run under window.
If someone knows why, it 'll be usefull.
Thank.
Was disk use enabled the last time it was synched?
post #1706 of 2490
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Originally Posted by Hayduke View Post
The only advantage I see to modding a 4th gen is that you can put the caps inside the case. If this is your motivation, then nevermind
The 4Gs cost a lot less than 5.5s as do spare parts. For a 1st time DIY Mod, I want to limit my exposure. Capacity isn't a big issue for me as I use 256k files and 20gb is more than enough to hold what I need. Being able to put the caps inside is very desireable as i want to keep it all compact as possible.
post #1707 of 2490
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico67 View Post
I have try to use an Ipod HD 5G on a special box adaptater (Zif to USB) to use the hard drive has a regular external HD...
The hard drive is read by the os system , but never run under window.
If someone knows why, it 'll be usefull.
Thank.
having disc use enabled wont do anything once its in its own enclosure; thats just instructions for the ipod to enable it, not the HD itself. I think you probably need to reformat/initialize it using your disk tools. was the ipod formatted as mac or PC format initially?? probably the boot partition is getting in the way if you havent re-formatted it. I just bought one of those too except without the enclosure. Its just one that has a ribbon cable; I just plan to use it as a way of testing/reformatting HD.s I may get one of those enclosures to use with my laptop though. they are nice and small
post #1708 of 2490
yes, i'm under Windows, but as there is noway to make the HD read under windows (only in the os) i can't reformat it.
i think is due to the initial small "apple" partition .
i think it's impossible to use an used Apple HD as a regular external drive in an enclosure.
It'll work only for HD witch haven't been initialised with an ipod.
Maybe i have wrong and wait for your results.
post #1709 of 2490
If you have a Toshiba made-for-ipod 80GB hard drive (MK8010GAH or MK8022GAA), there is a thread on HDDguru forum where the members there thought that these models hard drive are protected or locked, and can only be used inside iPods.
See discussion here.

I'm encountering problems with my ipod MK8010GAH drive. I can't seem to transfer more than ~900MB of files (any sort) onto it.

Even when its inside the iPod, I can't seem to get a reliable scan on the drive.
(iMod actually, so I'm not going to open up my iPod.)

I tried so many times I have already lost count.
Each time I would restore it with iTunes to wipe it clean, enable disk use etc; WinXP's chkdsk (with /f /r options) would report no problem, no bad sectors etc.
When I start transferring files, either syncing with iTunes, or direct drag and drop, or a mixture of both, everything is fine, until I hit that particular 900MB or so mark. I even tried to do it one file at a time, and in all sort of different order.

Once I get near that mark, both the iPod and the PC would hang, and I would get a series of ""Windows - Delayed Write Failed" error messages, or "File not found" etc. I encounter the same thing with different PCs, different USB ports, different iPod USB cables... Same thing with or without it being Rockboxed.

So I'm thinking my hard drive is screwed... (at least I hope that's the problem and not something wrong with the logic board or other connectors).

I'm going to buy a different model hard drive and send it to Vinnie to replace it for me.
post #1710 of 2490
Hi SidcityMeis.
Yes i think you have right, the Hard is locked.
Concerning your problem with the size of the files, i think it can be due to the fact that it's limited by the format fat32.
So, your hard drive run normaly and mines too.
You have right to don't open your Imod, i have make it many times and now...
I return it to Vinie for repair !
I have broke the Zif connector bw HD and mother board.
And as it's an RWA Imod, cost is quite expensive.
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Gear mentioned in this thread:

Apple 30 GB iPod with Video Playback Black (5th Generation)
iPod Nano Headset Music Player
Apple iPod classic 160 GB Black (6th Generation) OLD MODEL
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