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post #841 of 9242
1/16/08 at 10:40pm
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Originally Posted by thadeus finn View Post
Not crazy about threatening him, just kind of distressing that he won't respond to these innocuous emails. Especially considering he is so willing to take new orders.
Well, I think he gets "trapped" while finishing up a batch of 50, and puts priority only on excepting new orders (for the next batch of 50), until he has time to go threw all the emails. It is something he hasn't learned to correct yet. This is the third time we have seen this, we know it is not him "dissing" anyone, it seems to be a "work habit". On the flip side, I would imagine preparing 50 for shipment is an enormous tasking for him.
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post #842 of 9242
1/16/08 at 11:50pm
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Originally Posted by Penchum View Post
It is actually good you are keeping the Zero in the back of your mind. I don't know about the rest of these fellas, but when my babies arrived, I found myself looking to get satisfaction on a very tight budget. Those little ones sure can burn a budget quick!! Good luck on the little one!!!
Thanks man, and thanks for all the insight into all the various opamps that you, shopper and everyone else has provided, along with all the other useful information.
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post #843 of 9242
1/17/08 at 2:10am
This thread has become truly enormous and I have no intention of reading it all - if the following information is common knowledge then I apologise.

I ordered my Zero at least five weeks ago from the eBay seller, snow48_6, and it has not arrived yet. After sending him a fairly blunt email he replied thus:

"Dear jordansugars,

i'm very sorry.i will tell you the truth.the DAC is not mine,but my friend's.he use my ebay number to sell it.then he doesn't post it to you.but i don't know until now.so if you want it,i will post it to you today.if you don't want it ,i will payback to you,ok?


- snow48_6"
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post #844 of 9242
1/17/08 at 2:20am
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Originally Posted by Penchum View Post
Here is what I've tested so far:

Dac / Amp :

(SNIP)

N/A means I'm missing part of the combo to test it, so someone else can take a crack at it.
If you do any of the N/A's or have an addition, PM it too me and I'll add it. THX,
Thanks much for the work/time in compiling this list!

Will
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post #845 of 9242
1/17/08 at 4:56am
I got a reply. Lawrence said that he received only half of the 50 units in time and the rest will come few days later. He said that my unit is on the later batch.

So it's looking good now.
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post #846 of 9242
1/17/08 at 8:35am
i just got my unit. ive taken tonnes of pix but i havent had a chance to listen to it yet due to the lack of optical output from my PC.

can anybody give more reviews on the Zero? or at least links to reviews in this thread...

ive tried going through page by page of this thread over the past few weeks but ive only managed to get up to page 52 so far and im exhausted!
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post #847 of 9242
1/17/08 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by edguetzow View Post
I really like the looks of the new knob and would definitely get one for both. Where are you getting it from? Is it the same place that Penchum had recommended in an earlier post?

I would like to get one as well!
Yeh it is, Parts conneXion. I really like the chrome one, they do others too. I should have ordered two when i got the other one. ah well.
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post #848 of 9242
1/17/08 at 9:53am
I have just got some more op amps today so i'll have a go at playing about with them in the zero later on.
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post #849 of 9242
1/17/08 at 10:12am
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Originally Posted by Normality View Post
But maybe I'll do DY2000 and LT1469 first, since this one has much promise.


Unfortunately my 2 DY2000 still haven't arrived; as for the Zero, I have it but the package has remained unopened for a few days due to me being too busy/concerned with other things. By this weekend I should make it.
Which is best the dy2000 ceramic or metal can?
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post #850 of 9242
1/17/08 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by jordansugars View Post
This thread has become truly enormous and I have no intention of reading it all - if the following information is common knowledge then I apologise.

I ordered my Zero at least five weeks ago from the eBay seller, snow48_6, and it has not arrived yet. After sending him a fairly blunt email he replied thus:

"Dear jordansugars,

i'm very sorry.i will tell you the truth.the DAC is not mine,but my friend's.he use my ebay number to sell it.then he doesn't post it to you.but i don't know until now.so if you want it,i will post it to you today.if you don't want it ,i will payback to you,ok?


- snow48_6"
That really freaks me out! Umm, get your money back quickly. Then purchase one from Lawrence. At least, we know that Lawrence will stand behind his offerings. So, I guess the new word is NO SNOW.
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post #851 of 9242
1/17/08 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by Normality View Post
Well they say that the metal can versions of opamps generally have a less laidback sound compared to their DIP counterparts, along with a little bit more detail.

Personally for the Zero I'd go with the ceramic. Me, I ordered 2 of them so I can decide whether to use it in the Dac or in the Amp, i.e. DY2000 + LT1469 or the other way around. LT1469 + DY2000 is very tempting too, especially after Penchum's findings about the LT1469 used in the Dac.

The LT1469, btw, is said to be as clear as the OPA627 but with more of a neutral sound to it. While the LT1364 is more of a "live" sound.
HI! Agreed. One thing I wasn't considering before, and do now (for my stuff), is that the DAC output to an amp or tube amp, may benefit greatly by having a more "live" Opamp running. On several combinations, I listened to my Super-T and then changed to my MKIVse. The tube amp did it's magic better with the "live" sounding Opamp in the Zero. I guess a laid back sound, when tubed becomes restrictive in the end? Something like that. Anyway, I didn't use the tube amp in the comparisons for the chart. This way, the comparisons were to a decent amp with decent speakers. The clear winner on the chart has to be the LT1364. It worked way better than I had even guessed earlier on. It has real potential with the LT1469 as well.

I can't wait to hear everyone's impressions of the DY2000 in combination to what we know so far! Should be a hoot!
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post #852 of 9242
1/17/08 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by Penchum View Post
That really freaks me out! Umm, get your money back quickly. Then purchase one from Lawrence. At least, we know that Lawrence will stand behind his offerings. So, I guess the new word is NO SNOW.
+1. After reading the whole thread, I would only buy these from Lawrence!

Will
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post #853 of 9242
1/17/08 at 11:54am
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The Opamp comparison table

Once we have some more input to the table, I'll copy it and add it to the back end of the review, then continue to update it as more info is sent to me. Does that sound ok to everyone? Thanks!
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post #854 of 9242
1/17/08 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by Penchum View Post
Once we have some more input to the table, I'll copy it and add it to the back end of the review, then continue to update it as more info is sent to me. Does that sound ok to everyone? Thanks!
Sounds great. Try to write a few words on every combination if it's not too much work. Something like "neutral, very fast, very good bass impact" or "warm, slightly laid back treble, slightly loose bass" and so on. Will be much easier to pair the op-amps with different cans.

Good work btw
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post #855 of 9242
1/17/08 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by Henmyr View Post
Sounds great. Try to write a few words on every combination if it's not too much work. Something like "neutral, very fast, very good bass impact" or "warm, slightly laid back treble, slightly loose bass" and so on. Will be much easier to pair the op-amps with different cans.

Good work btw
Ya, I was thinking about that. When I started working on the list, I thought to myself, "This will help folks to skip Opamps that will be disappointing and at least point them in the right direction." I'll have to give the extra narrative bit some more thought. For now though, anything that has "great" will not disappoint, so that is at least something!
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