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post #7951 of 9242
11/20/08 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by ScottieB View Post
Right - what I was saying was that if you want a certain result, you've got to "play the game" so to speak. For instance, I can't stand corporate america, the culture, the clothing, the politics - I HATE it. But I work for a fairly large corporation and as such, if I want to thrive, I need to play the game. I go home and tell my wife how stupid and phony it is, and at times it really messes with my integrity to be so fake and anti-everything I believe, but I gotta work, and I may as well be as successful as possible doing it (so I can pour more money into the Chinese electronics economy - ha!).

I think the point of all this from the beginning was to say just be aware, and use the knowledge you have to your advantage.
Righto ! play the game - cheers scottie and Les !
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post #7952 of 9242
11/21/08 at 4:55am
I feel bad for posting this in here, but I've spent the last two weeks reading three hundred of the pages in this thread as well as some others. From what I've read the Zero should be able to drive the 80ohm DT770s but I purchased the 250ohm 05 consumer edition and the bass is far weaker than I had imagined. Can anyone with experience with the 05 DT770s connected to the Zero without a dedicated amp comment on this?

I heard some people had good experiences with this setup but it's not happening for me. I've gotten the suggestion to pick up a dedicated amp but I'm skeptical at the moment but I'm willing to try it out.

I'm seriously considering selling these, but as my first real set of cans, I'd feel terrible for ending my hifi experience this early but I think I'd be happier finding something more fitting.

Anyways, any suggestions or comments would be very much appreciated. I'd really like to find that 'thundering' bass everyone's talking about
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post #7953 of 9242
11/21/08 at 5:03am
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Originally Posted by solessthanthree View Post
I feel bad for posting this in here, but I've spent the last two weeks reading three hundred of the pages in this thread as well as some others. From what I've read the Zero should be able to drive the 80ohm DT770s but I purchased the 250ohm 05 consumer edition and the bass is far weaker than I had imagined. Can anyone with experience with the 05 DT770s connected to the Zero without a dedicated amp comment on this?

I heard some people had good experiences with this setup but it's not happening for me. I've gotten the suggestion to pick up a dedicated amp but I'm skeptical at the moment but I'm willing to try it out.

I'm seriously considering selling these, but as my first real set of cans, I'd feel terrible for ending my hifi experience this early but I think I'd be happier finding something more fitting.

Anyways, any suggestions or comments would be very much appreciated. I'd really like to find that 'thundering' bass everyone's talking about
Hello,
I just sold a one week old set of those today. It is not the Zero's fault. Those phones are limited in the Base dept. Has nothing to do with the amp or dac. If you bought them in the amazon deal, you can get your money back easily. I sold mine for what I paid for them $114.
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post #7954 of 9242
11/21/08 at 5:32am
A few quick questions:

Is this the earth leg of the RCA jack that I am supposed to solder the ground wire of the HDAM to?



I have my HDAM positioned here. Is this a good spot? As you can see, I have a 200mm extension lead, so I can really move it around.

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post #7955 of 9242
11/21/08 at 8:10am
my zero last stage of mod .... :P
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post #7956 of 9242
11/21/08 at 8:33am
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Anyways, any suggestions or comments would be very much appreciated. I'd really like to find that 'thundering' bass everyone's talking about
Hey solessthanthree! I do not really have any solid advise to give you, more than that if you're thinking of getting another set of cans with more bass, maybe you should check out Sony's new XB(eXtra Bass) headphones.



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my zero last stage of mod .... :P
WOW, what is all that?
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post #7957 of 9242
11/21/08 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by Deftoned View Post
Hey solessthanthree! I do not really have any solid advise to give you, more than that if you're thinking of getting another set of cans with more bass, maybe you should check out Sony's new XB(eXtra Bass) headphones.





WOW, what is all that?
tube output stage
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post #7958 of 9242
11/21/08 at 11:56am
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Originally Posted by cuoreboy View Post
my zero last stage of mod .... :P
This needs to be posted in the Zero Mod Thread rather than here. Congratulations though, it's completely crazy...great stuff!
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post #7959 of 9242
11/21/08 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by cuoreboy View Post
my zero last stage of mod .... :P

Ahhhh, Dude, You're runnin' out of chassis there.

SOMEBODY STOOOPPPP ME! STOPPP ME BEFORE I MOD AGAIN!!!
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post #7960 of 9242
11/21/08 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
If anyone's interested, I had another listen to the HDAMs after some burning in. The Moon I reckon is the one to go for, having the most soundstage of the three, the Sun being the most "in your face" and the Earth being in between.
Which HDAM unit should I go for to combo with the D2000? I want to make the D2000 sounds smoother especially in the treble and mids region. I reckon based on my findings in this thread the 'earth' would be the most suitable but I'm open to other suggestions.
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post #7961 of 9242
11/21/08 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by solessthanthree View Post
I feel bad for posting this in here, but I've spent the last two weeks reading three hundred of the pages in this thread as well as some others. From what I've read the Zero should be able to drive the 80ohm DT770s but I purchased the 250ohm 05 consumer edition and the bass is far weaker than I had imagined. Can anyone with experience with the 05 DT770s connected to the Zero without a dedicated amp comment on this?

I heard some people had good experiences with this setup but it's not happening for me. I've gotten the suggestion to pick up a dedicated amp but I'm skeptical at the moment but I'm willing to try it out.

I'm seriously considering selling these, but as my first real set of cans, I'd feel terrible for ending my hifi experience this early but I think I'd be happier finding something more fitting.

Anyways, any suggestions or comments would be very much appreciated. I'd really like to find that 'thundering' bass everyone's talking about
The Zero happily drives my 600ohm Senns. You may find that particular models of opamp give you a greater sense of bass depth, but I do suspect it would be trying to cure an inherent design characteristic of the cans themselves, rather than the DAC/amp itself.

~Phewl.
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post #7962 of 9242
11/21/08 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by AudioPhewl View Post
The Zero happily drives my 600ohm Senns. You may find that particular models of opamp give you a greater sense of bass depth, but I do suspect it would be trying to cure an inherent design characteristic of the cans themselves, rather than the DAC/amp itself.

~Phewl.
Ahhh... I see. Thanks for all the great advice guys. Alas, I've got a lot to learn still and I think I just need to look around a bit more to get what I'm really after. I think I'll end up selling these anyways and pick up the 80ohm version once I get my post count up :] and then maybe pick up a dedicated amp. Thanks again everyone!

And also, cuoreboy, that's a monstrosity sure lives up to its name! Awesome job!
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post #7963 of 9242
11/21/08 at 8:31pm
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Originally Posted by solessthanthree View Post
Ahhh... I see. Thanks for all the great advice guys. Alas, I've got a lot to learn still and I think I just need to look around a bit more to get what I'm really after. I think I'll end up selling these anyways and pick up the 80ohm version once I get my post count up :] and then maybe pick up a dedicated amp. Thanks again everyone!

And also, cuoreboy, that's a monstrosity sure lives up to its name! Awesome job!
You will most likely like the 80 ohm pro's better. Also, the Head amp in the Zero is pretty good, don't sell it short!
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post #7964 of 9242
11/21/08 at 10:17pm
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Originally Posted by K3cT View Post
Which HDAM unit should I go for to combo with the D2000? I want to make the D2000 sounds smoother especially in the treble and mids region. I reckon based on my findings in this thread the 'earth' would be the most suitable but I'm open to other suggestions.
I'm personally recommending the Moon, because of the greater soundstage. That being said, "soundstage" in headphones is an illusion of slight differences in EQ.

With the D2000s though, how long have you had them? They tend to be a bit harsh in the treble initially, which goes away with some hours of use.
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post #7965 of 9242
11/21/08 at 11:03pm
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post
You will most likely like the 80 ohm pro's better. Also, the Head amp in the Zero is pretty good, don't sell it short!
The Zero in itself is a great unit for the price, but I'm of the persuasion that its builtin headphone amp section just doesn't compare to a real, separate amp. I recently purchased a Heed CanAmp to pair with my K701, but even with my '05 DT770 the improvement is phenomenal. That said, I'm extremely happy with the Zero as a source.
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