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post #1 of 20
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I am in a predicament here. I'm looking at AudioCubes, and I have decided to get a Dolby Headphone adaptor for decoding DTS and DD5.1 streams and outputting them to some phones via Dolby Headphone reprocessing.

Purpose: This will be mostly for high definition films and TV shows (DD5.1 and DTS), DVD-Audio (high quality 5.1 recordings), plus some gaming in surround, and - of course - high bitrate stereo music (classical, opera, classic rock, older hip hop).
  1. Currently, I am looking at the JVC SU-DH1 Dolby adaptor:


    If I get that, I would also need to get a new set of phones separately (currently thinking of ATH-A900, but maybe something higher-end; going to see what I can come up with after a trip to Layton Audio tomorrow). Anyhow, I'll probably end up spending $80-$250 on phones, plus the $90 for the DH1.

  2. My other choice is the Pioneer SE-DIR800C, which is a clean $250. I have had bad experience with wireless headphones, albeit RF ones, but I'm still a little hesitant to try more wireless. These are digital wireless phones, so the interference should be minimal, right?

The pros to this is that the 800C gives me further range without the hassle of wires, and I get both the phones and receiver in one package. However, the phones that come with it are probably not nearly as good the A900s, or other wired phones that I could get, like the A500.

Plus, the SU-DH1 could turn out cheaper if I get, say, ATH-A700 with it, for a total of about $200 (maybe less if I get used phones).


So, in summary. SE-DIR800C:
- Wireless, reportedly excellent sound.
- At $250, slightly more expensive than the DH1, yet a dirt cheap wireless solution.
- Does not have a jack to connect wired phones.
- Included wireless phones might not be as good as cheaper wired models.

SU-DH1:
- Only $90 + headphone cost.
- Can use any wired phones with it.
- Wired, limited by the cable length of my headphones.


Are there any other good choices? I've seen the SE-DIR2000C and JVC-Victor HP-W1500, but I can't justify spending the extra $200 on them, nor the extra $150 for SE-DIR800CII, as it looks to be practically the same thing.

So, which of these two is the better choice? If you have another option, let me know, thanks.
post #2 of 20
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Originally Posted by imported_S_G View Post
I am in a predicament here. I'm looking at AudioCubes, and I have decided to get a Dolby Headphone adaptor for decoding DTS and DD5.1 streams and outputting them to some phones via Dolby Headphone reprocessing.

Purpose: This will be mostly for high definition films and TV shows (DD5.1 and DTS), DVD-Audio (high quality 5.1 recordings), plus some gaming in surround, and - of course - high bitrate stereo music (classical, opera, classic rock, older hip hop).
  1. Currently, I am looking at the JVC SU-DH1 Dolby adaptor:


    If I get that, I would also need to get a new set of phones separately (currently thinking of ATH-A900, but maybe something higher-end; going to see what I can come up with after a trip to Layton Audio tomorrow). Anyhow, I'll probably end up spending $80-$250 on phones, plus the $90 for the DH1.

  2. My other choice is the Pioneer SE-DIR800C, which is a clean $250. I have had bad experience with wireless headphones, albeit RF ones, but I'm still a little hesitant to try more wireless. These are digital wireless phones, so the interference should be minimal, right?

The pros to this is that the 800C gives me further range without the hassle of wires, and I get both the phones and receiver in one package. However, the phones that come with it are probably not nearly as good the A900s, or other wired phones that I could get, like the A500.

Plus, the SU-DH1 could turn out cheaper if I get, say, ATH-A700 with it, for a total of about $200 (maybe less if I get used phones).


So, in summary. SE-DIR800C:
- Wireless, reportedly excellent sound.
- At $250, slightly more expensive than the DH1, yet a dirt cheap wireless solution.
- Does not have a jack to connect wired phones.
- Included wireless phones might not be as good as cheaper wired models.

SU-DH1:
- Only $90 + headphone cost.
- Can use any wired phones with it.
- Wired, limited by the cable length of my headphones.


Are there any other good choices? I've seen the SE-DIR2000C and JVC-Victor HP-W1500, but I can't justify spending the extra $200 on them, nor the extra $150 for SE-DIR800CII, as it looks to be practically the same thing.

So, which of these two is the better choice? If you have another option, let me know, thanks.
I recommended the JVC on AVS.. Everyone that bought one says the JVC is jaw dropping for movies.. I'd go with the 900 JVC combo.. & you can switch headphones too.. & wired is better then wireless..
post #3 of 20
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice View Post
I recommended the JVC on AVS.. Everyone that bought one says the JVC is jaw dropping for movies.. I'd go with the 900 JVC combo.. & you can switch headphones too.. & wired is better then wireless..
I suppose that's true, though I'm probably looking at needing about 3.5 to 4.5 meters of cable to make sure I can sit comfortably away from the screen when necessary.
post #4 of 20
The JVC is a great sounding unit but its own amp doesn't do much with any dynamic phones I have tried. I run a separate Stax SRDP headphone amp hooked up to the headphone out of the JVC (there is no line out) driving Stax 404 or Koss 950 phones and they sound great. The JVC itself is linked to a Panasonic portable dvd player by a digital optical cable.
post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by edstrelow View Post
The JVC is a great sounding unit but its own amp doesn't do much with any dynamic phones I have tried. I run a separate Stax SRDP headphone amp hooked up to the headphone out of the JVC (there is no line out) driving Stax 404 or Koss 950 phones and they sound great. The JVC itself is linked to a Panasonic portable dvd player by a digital optical cable.
Really? I thought the sound might degrade if I ran an amp through the JVC. I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by imported_S_G View Post
Really? I thought the sound might degrade if I ran an amp through the JVC. I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
If so not so as to be noticeable. Also movies vary widely in sound level so the volume control on the unit allows compensation.


Try to get the transformer for the unit so you don't need to keep using batteries. Audiocubes used to have it.
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by edstrelow View Post
If so not so as to be noticeable. Also movies vary widely in sound level so the volume control on the unit allows compensation.
You make a good point. I suppose if I'm going to be using an amp, I guess I can broaden my range of headphones to higher impedance ones.

Quote:
Try to get the transformer for the unit so you don't need to keep using batteries. Audiocubes used to have it.
Oh, damn. I didn't notice it's sold separately. I can't find the transformer on their site, so it looks like I'm going to have to buy a compatible AC adapter locally.
post #8 of 20
i'd recommend the sbc-ah 1000 from philips. the best out there. came as a bundle but you can get it separately via ebay. i also owned the su-dh1 but please: DVD-Audio? forget it!

BTW: MLP won't be recognized by these units unless it's matricized (Dolby PL) and then decoded.
post #9 of 20
Can't find much in English about this processor. Does it require power? Could it work with US Voltages?

Where can you purchase one?
post #10 of 20
I don't have the SU-DH1 so I can't comment on that, but I do have the SE-DIR800C. Two things:

Wireless connection is indeed not RF, but IR. This gives low noise (I also have had bad experiences with RF), but on the other hand limits you to line-of-sight. So you can't put the receiver out of sight.

It *does* have a headphone jack for wired headphones, but it seems to have more noise than the wireless connection. Also, controlling the volume of the headphone jack is done on the receiver, which is not for lazy people The supplied headphone on the other hand has build-in volume control.

All in all I'm happy with mine
post #11 of 20
I have 'em both.

Actually I have the Pioneer D2000 processor and headphones.

The Pioneer is far and away the better product. Can't really comment on the 800C, so take what you will.

So many more options with connectivity with the Pioneer, and ways to modulate the sound (DH1, 2, 3, etc). So you can really fine tune it to what you like.

It also has an option for wired connectivity, so you can hook up your high dollar headphones when you want. I use it exclusively to watch movies and it is fantastic.

The JVC has been sitting in a bag since the Pioneer.
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by imported_S_G View Post
I am in a predicament here. I'm looking at AudioCubes, and I have decided to get a Dolby Headphone adaptor for decoding DTS and DD5.1 streams and outputting them to some phones via Dolby Headphone reprocessing.

Purpose: This will be mostly for high definition films and TV shows (DD5.1 and DTS), DVD-Audio (high quality 5.1 recordings), plus some gaming in surround, and - of course - high bitrate stereo music (classical, opera, classic rock, older hip hop).
  1. Currently, I am looking at the JVC SU-DH1 Dolby adaptor:


    If I get that, I would also need to get a new set of phones separately (currently thinking of ATH-A900, but maybe something higher-end; going to see what I can come up with after a trip to Layton Audio tomorrow). Anyhow, I'll probably end up spending $80-$250 on phones, plus the $90 for the DH1.

  2. My other choice is the Pioneer SE-DIR800C, which is a clean $250. I have had bad experience with wireless headphones, albeit RF ones, but I'm still a little hesitant to try more wireless. These are digital wireless phones, so the interference should be minimal, right?

The pros to this is that the 800C gives me further range without the hassle of wires, and I get both the phones and receiver in one package. However, the phones that come with it are probably not nearly as good the A900s, or other wired phones that I could get, like the A500.

Plus, the SU-DH1 could turn out cheaper if I get, say, ATH-A700 with it, for a total of about $200 (maybe less if I get used phones).


So, in summary. SE-DIR800C:
- Wireless, reportedly excellent sound.
- At $250, slightly more expensive than the DH1, yet a dirt cheap wireless solution.
- Does not have a jack to connect wired phones.
- Included wireless phones might not be as good as cheaper wired models.

SU-DH1:
- Only $90 + headphone cost.
- Can use any wired phones with it.
- Wired, limited by the cable length of my headphones.


Are there any other good choices? I've seen the SE-DIR2000C and JVC-Victor HP-W1500, but I can't justify spending the extra $200 on them, nor the extra $150 for SE-DIR800CII, as it looks to be practically the same thing.

So, which of these two is the better choice? If you have another option, let me know, thanks.
Newbie to this forum. It was recommmmended by a member at AVS Forum.

I am looking at exactly the same options WOW! My spouse wants quiet in the bedroon while I watch the home theater in bed.

I was ready to buy the Pioneer SEDIR800c from Audiocubes; but I have been concerned about several owner reviews at Amazon about the intermittant cut-out of sound when even moving slighly . I will be about 10-15ft. max. from the base.

Consequently I looked for other IR based Dolby headphones; that had better range capabilities (I am worried about 2.4 ghz.RF interference with my wireless network).

I happened upon a Cnet review of the Sony MDRDS4000 ($300-350); The range was reported exceptional. Unfortunately; this model is very hard to find ( Ebay); as I think it has been discontinued. I looked at the specs for the Sony MDRDS3000; but it didn;t have the same range capability.

That led me to look at the JVC Dolby headphone option with either the Audio Technica ATH-A700 or A900 (closed) headphones; with a long cord.

My guess is that the wired solution may sound better(?); and won't have cut-out issues; but is less convenient.

I also looked at the Pioneer SEDIR2000 at Audiocubes; but it is not only more money; but I don't know if the sound cut-out issue is any better than the 800C.

Then there is the question of which Dolby processor is better for home theater (Pioneer, Sony or JVC)?

I was hoping that people reading this thread could help steer my decision. There does not seem to be many or any local stores where I can try these options.

thanks Much.
post #13 of 20
just get yourself this philips unit! ^^

it's cool!
post #14 of 20
What model is that Philips? Never seen it.
post #15 of 20
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What model is that Philips? Never seen it.
SBC AH 1000 - came bundled. But you can get it separately via eBay. Big advantage: Not wireless
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