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post #301 of 379
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Originally Posted by TheWhiteRabbit View Post

 

 

Like how low?

 

The general rule of thumb most people follow is 1/8 the impedance of the earphones.  So the 300 ohm hd600 should have a source with an output impedance of no more than 37.5 roughly.  The lower the better.  Most portable amps are lower than that...

post #302 of 379
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The general rule of thumb most people follow is 1/8 the impedance of the earphones.  So the 300 ohm hd600 should have a source with an output impedance of no more than 37.5 roughly.  The lower the better.  Most portable amps are lower than that...

 I've seen the specs for impedance on my receiver (8ohms) but that has directly to do with the speaker inputs correct? Because the 8hm is compiled with other "output info" like 80 watts. I'm thinking there has to be something specific on headphone output, right? 


Edited by TheWhiteRabbit - 8/16/13 at 11:34pm
post #303 of 379
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Originally Posted by TheWhiteRabbit View Post

 I've seen the specs for impedance on my receiver (8ohms) but that has directly to do with the speaker inputs correct? Because the 8hm is compiled with other "output info" like 80 watts. I'm thinking there has to be something specific on headphone output, right? 

 

Yes.  You want the specific headphone output impedance not the speaker output.  Unfortunately, a lot of receiver manufacturers like Denon don't list the spec or even know it if you ask them. :-/  But you can check your manual.  Most portable devices have that spec.

post #304 of 379
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post

 

Yes.  You want the specific headphone output impedance not the speaker output.  Unfortunately, a lot of receiver manufacturers like Denon don't list the spec or even know it if you ask them. :-/  But you can check your manual.  Most portable devices have that spec.

Yep thought so. At the moment I'm trying to locate a manual online. I know someone on audio karma has one he sends people. Ok, stupid question: am I going to be completely blown away by how better the HD600's are compared to my ATH-M50's?? haha. I enjoy the audio technicas, but I know they're nothing special. They were just the first nice set of phones I ever heard and were recommended by a good friend. I've decided on these HD600's after I've done about a month thinking about what to get so I have pretty high expectations. 


Edited by TheWhiteRabbit - 8/16/13 at 11:51pm
post #305 of 379
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Yep thought so. At the moment I'm trying to locate a manual online. I know someone on audio karma has one he sends people. Ok, stupid question: am I going to be completely blown away by how better the HD600's are compared to my ATH-M50's?? haha. I enjoy the audio technicas, but I know they're nothing special. They were just the first nice set of phones I ever heard and were recommended by a good friend. I've decided on these HD600's after I've done about a month thinking about what to get so I have pretty high expectations. 

 

I came from the m50s as well.  They probably won't BLOW you away.  But once you get used to them you should be able to easily appreciate the better sound, less muddy bass, smooth highs and overall more air.

post #306 of 379
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I came from the m50s as well.  They probably won't BLOW you away.  But once you get used to them you should be able to easily appreciate the better sound, less muddy bass, smooth highs and overall more air.

Sounds good to me.
post #307 of 379

Yeah accurate sound doesn't "blow you away" in the way that a coloured headphone does, e.g. one with huge deep bass or presence peaks to exaggerate details.

post #308 of 379
I want to hear things the way they were intended to be heard. I'm just looking for more clarity and a greater immersion in the sound.
post #309 of 379
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I want to hear things the way they were intended to be heard. I'm just looking for more clarity and a greater immersion in the sound.

I think you'll get that from the HD600. The soundstage isn't huge but full and immersive, and imaging is accurate. I love mine smily_headphones1.gif

post #310 of 379
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I think you'll get that from the HD600. The soundstage isn't huge but full and immersive, and imaging is accurate. I love mine smily_headphones1.gif

Ever heard the HD650's?
post #311 of 379

Not personally, but the consensus is that if accuracy is what you're after, the HD600 is slightly more neutral. HD650 is a bit darker because it has somewhat less treble.

post #312 of 379
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Yeah accurate sound doesn't "blow you away" in the way that a coloured headphone does, e.g. one with huge deep bass or presence peaks to exaggerate details.

You make a very fine point here. I had a friend who got into hi-fi and his first pair of headphones were the dt990/250 pro after trying out many headphones (not the hd600s though; i didn't have that then). I have another friend who's going to purchase a pair of dt990/600 after comparing my first friend's dt990 and my hd600s. I guess people really do prefer colored headphones at first haha.

 

I used to be able to tolerate the dt990, but now after being so used to my hd600, the dt990 has way too much treble and bass for me to really enjoy. Strangely though, during my first head-fi meet, I was pretty blown away by how the demo UERMs sounded, even though they're the most neutral IEMs in production.

post #313 of 379
One of the deciding factors for me was that the HD650 was described as a more laid back headphone which kind of turned me off. What I love about vinyl is that with the right setup you can feel like your in the studio with the band and when the music really gets going you can experience sensory overload in the most beautiful way possible. I just hope I made the right decision. From what everyone has told me I'm under the impression that the 600 pairs better with vinyl. Even the guy at razor dog audio who prefers the 650 recommended the 600 after I told him what I'd be using them for.
Edited by TheWhiteRabbit - 8/17/13 at 7:47pm
post #314 of 379

I think so. Vinyl is very warm compared to digital and the HD650 would make it sound even warmer, so it's better paired with a neutral or leaner headphone.

post #315 of 379
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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 View Post

I think so. Vinyl is very warm compared to digital and the HD650 would make it sound even warmer, so it's better paired with a neutral or leaner headphone.

 

 

When you say vinyl is very warm I completely understand what you are saying. The sound is warm and very opening. Man I CAN'T WAIT TO LISTEN TO VINYL ON HD600'S !!!!!!


Edited by TheWhiteRabbit - 8/18/13 at 12:01am
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