HD 600 vs HD 650 - Page 17

i thought hd 650s where completely new drivers. 

No, they are the same. HD 650's are simply matched to minutely closer and the housings are made of different materials. The magnetic assembly is also placed '2 clicks' further away from the baffle than on the HD 600. It amounts to something like 1 1/2 mm or so. The plastic 'shells; between the silk spreader and the headphone are also different. That pretty much sums up the difference from HD 650 to HD 600.

I like HD 600 more.

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Originally Posted by Hennyo 

No, they are the same. HD 650's are simply matched to minutely closer and the housings are made of different materials. The magnetic assembly is also placed '2 clicks' further away from the baffle than on the HD 600. It amounts to something like 1 1/2 mm or so. The plastic 'shells; between the silk spreader and the headphone are also different. That pretty much sums up the difference from HD 650 to HD 600.

 

I like HD 600 more.

 

 

Not necessarily questioning you, but do you have a link to more info on this?  I'd love to read up on this a little.
 

Same drivers similar sound signature? I have a pair of HD580s and wouldn't get the 650s unless I thought they were significantly different (and improved)

I have to admit, I lost most of my interest in the HD600s supposedly more neutral sound when I was able to quickly AB them, both balanced, and this was at the same get together where I was ABing higher tier cans...and figured they sounded more or less the same as the HD650 (both much lower resolution than the planars, electros and top dynamics).

In these situations I'd imagine different tonal balances in dacs and amps could probably be able to make one sound just like the other.

I weirdly prefer the HD600 in SE mode out of an opamp rather than balanced out of a better tube amp in the same system. I would like to have some more time with an HD650 to make the same comparison.

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Originally Posted by kingoftown1 

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Originally Posted by Hennyo 

No, they are the same. HD 650's are simply matched to minutely closer and the housings are made of different materials. The magnetic assembly is also placed '2 clicks' further away from the baffle than on the HD 600. It amounts to something like 1 1/2 mm or so. The plastic 'shells; between the silk spreader and the headphone are also different. That pretty much sums up the difference from HD 650 to HD 600.

 

I like HD 600 more.

 

 

Not necessarily questioning you, but do you have a link to more info on this?  I'd love to read up on this a little.
 

 

This article implies the HD650 driver is different (voice coil and diaphragm). Not sure where this claim that the differences are only in the housing originates from.

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Originally Posted by olor1n 

This article implies the HD650 driver is different (voice coil and diaphragm). Not sure where this claim that the differences are only in the housing originates from.

 

Yeah, I actually just remembered this article a few hours ago and re-read it.  I'm still curious as to if there's any source for the other info, especially since I've read some contradictory things on Headfonia (though I still find the site enjoyable as a whole).
 

I have read on different threads that some people have their HD 650 balanced. What does that mean exactly? My 650 is on the way and icon HDP will come later. The HDP does not have the balanced cable connection for headphone. Some say the stock cable on 650 is not that bad at all. So in my case how will I make HD 650 balanced with the HDP/650 combo? I mostly will use an optical cable to get signal from computer and a low end receviver for the home theater.

Balancing a headphone is just bringing all four driver wires to a balanced cable termination ie a 4-pin XLR or two 3-pin XLR connectors. If you don't already have a balanced source/amp, don't bother.

I'm still trying to toss up between the D2000, DT880/600, HD650/HD600, and FA-002 (woodied)
I wish I could hear these before purchasing.

For me music is vital, life is not worth living without it!

A hobby for me, sure it's not. It feed the hole in my heart and I can pass on my depressing moods and look at birds on a sunny day hoping for a better future!

HD650 is nice to me, never listen HD600 but it should be close! Whatever what model you choose, it will be nice to you!

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Originally Posted by DeathDomokun 

I'm still trying to toss up between the D2000, DT880/600, HD650/HD600, and FA-002 (woodied)
I wish I could hear these before purchasing.

The denon's are my favorite by far. They get the most head time. With the Beyers a close second. Just not a huge fan of the hd6xx series. They denon are heavier on the base line and are more fun to listen to. Great for all the music that I listen to. At $200 shipped they are really hard to beat!!

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Originally Posted by DeathDomokun 

I'm still trying to toss up between the D2000, DT880/600, HD650/HD600, and FA-002 (woodied)
I wish I could hear these before purchasing.

Amazon has a great return policy. I own both the HD650 and the D2000 and they couldn't be more different. The HD650 is gives more detail but like everyone says is more laid back which I personally love , this is great for long term usage since it doesn't "spike" your ears with varying frequencies. The D2000 is the great "jack-of-all-trades" headphone in my opinion , it does a lot of things really well but not to the extent that its revolutionary. 

If you love bass heavy sound and are a big fan of Rock , Rap or Electro then the D2000 is what you want. If you want detail , sound stage and a more relaxed experience than the HD650 will suit your needs , I think of the HD650's as the "lounge chair" of headphones. By that I mean comfortable , pleasant and stable. The D2000 is what I would consider "Fun" or "Young". 

Since I love the d2k, I will take your "fun and young" as a complement...lol