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post #16 of 267
11/26/07 at 7:48am
i am glad i found this thread, i am hugely frustrated with my 650s mainly due to the high expectations i have come to have of them after all the glowing reviews and yet to my ears they are soundly beaten by my "lowly" sextetts and MS1s in almost all genres of music.
To me the 650s sound overly "jangly" with the treble, especially with acoustic guitar. Instruments sound detached and artificial and lacking in cohesiveness which makes for a very fatiguing listen, i feel it is this detachment that gives the illusion of soundstaging, they lack the sextetts warm honey smoothness or the MS1s attack and pace, although 650s do handle tonality far better than the latter two, i feel most music should be presented like a well mixed salad, rather than separate dishes of raw vegetables (does that make sense? lol), i will refrain from putting them in the sale section for now only because i have a benchmark dac1 arriving this tuesday and i still have hopes that the 650s will impress, although after reading this thread, it seems that my upgrade should have been a head amp instead huh oh well
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post #17 of 267
11/26/07 at 8:24am
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Originally Posted by unkle11 View Post
i am glad i found this thread, i am hugely frustrated with my 650s mainly due to the high expectations i have come to have of them after all the glowing reviews and yet to my ears they are soundly beaten by my "lowly" sextetts and MS1s in almost all genres of music.
To me the 650s sound overly "jangly" with the treble, especially with acoustic guitar. Instruments sound detached and artificial and lacking in cohesiveness which makes for a very fatiguing listen, i feel it is this detachment that gives the illusion of soundstaging, they lack the sextetts warm honey smoothness or the MS1s attack and pace, although 650s do handle tonality far better than the latter two, i feel most music should be presented like a well mixed salad, rather than separate dishes of raw vegetables (does that make sense? lol), i will refrain from putting them in the sale section for now only because i have a benchmark dac1 arriving this tuesday and i still have hopes that the 650s will impress, although after reading this thread, it seems that my upgrade should have been a head amp instead huh oh well
Report back with 200 -300 hours of burn-in, they'll sound better.
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post #18 of 267
11/26/07 at 8:53am
Jo6pak, the girl's headphones on the right are backwards, notice the cable? I don't think she's really listening to anything. (sorry for the offtopic remark, I just got curious by the picture)



I personally love my Cardas cables with my HD580 headphones. The sound is cleaner, more precise, more pronounced and less veiled (even though these headphones never really felt veiled). It's hard to describe with words you have to actually hear it and compare to understand (with a good amp and source). All I can say that there is a difference and I prefer the Cardas to regular cables.
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post #19 of 267
11/26/07 at 9:05am
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Originally Posted by progo View Post
...the guinea pig was my mother...the test material included ... death metal :P

This is just not right, this is your mother
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post #20 of 267
11/26/07 at 9:09am
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This is just not right, this is your mother
I noticed this too, then I realized not all moms are the same. She could actually like all of that kind of music.
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post #21 of 267
11/26/07 at 11:01am
Thread Starter 
Lol, just for clarify she wanted to hear some other genres as well. :P

I should retake the test with a less warm amp, but these are pretty rare here in Finland. The markets aren't great.
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post #22 of 267
11/26/07 at 12:23pm
I didn't realize my sig had disappeared after the server crash. Perhaps it will help with further recommendations between the 600 and 650. Cost for either is not a factor. I listen to mostly Latin/Pop/Rock/Alternative (all with female vocals). Thanks also for clearing up the meaning of the terms 'veiled' and 'laid back'.
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post #23 of 267
11/26/07 at 5:55pm
So, why are almost all single sided headphone cables left-sided, but my HD25 are on the right?
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post #24 of 267
11/26/07 at 5:58pm
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
So, why are almost all single sided headphone cables left-sided, but my HD25 are on the right?
You have them on backwards.
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post #25 of 267
11/27/07 at 12:11am
So, on Senn HD25, red (cable side) should be on the left, not red on the right?

That's a first for me.
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post #26 of 267
11/27/07 at 12:32am
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
So, on Senn HD25, red (cable side) should be on the left, not red on the right?

That's a first for me.
on my hd25sp, red is on the right...
btw, how long did your hd25 take to burn in? i've got about 10 hrs now and they sound lots better.

sorry for the threadjack
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post #27 of 267
11/27/07 at 1:01am
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Originally Posted by noblsheep View Post
on my hd25sp, red is on the right...
btw, how long did your hd25 take to burn in? i've got about 10 hrs now and they sound lots better.

sorry for the threadjack
If red is on the right, then I WAS correct when I said the cable is on the right. I was told here that the cable is on the left, but not on mine - the cable/red connector is on the right (which is wrong in my view).

Mine needed 100 - 150 hours to fully burn-in, which is much better than Ultrasone iCans that needed 350 hours. I was told the HD600 need the same, and I bought my HD600 here, with 200 hours already on them.
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post #28 of 267
11/27/07 at 2:11am
This is a great thread because I'm looking into both of these headphones. The price difference for me is only $24 since my brother gets both for half off where he works. I'm just not sure if I should get the hd650 just because it costs $24 more. I listen to mostly R&B and Hip-Hop, some rock & dance/electronic.

When users are talking about 'burn-in' before listening to headphones, how does one go about it?
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post #29 of 267
11/27/07 at 2:16am
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Originally Posted by serpico View Post
When users are talking about 'burn-in' before listening to headphones, how does one go about it?
plug the headphones in, press play, walk away for 100-200 hours, come back and listen to your burned-in headphones.
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post #30 of 267
11/27/07 at 2:39am
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Originally Posted by vcoheda View Post
plug the headphones in, press play, walk away for 100-200 hours, come back and listen to your burned-in headphones.
Haha, I thought there was special audio that users were passing through the headphones. Thanks for the tip.
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