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STAX on the cheap: help needed

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
I'd like to buy a Stax headphone but I am on a tight budget and was wondering if I could combine a cheap ($100-150) current amplifier (like a SRM-212 or a SRM-252) with more expensive headphone
(like a SR-303 or SR-404) or should I just buy the SRS-2050A kit (SR-202+SRM-252A)
Which will give me a better sound and will provide me an upgrade path...
post #2 of 24
Hi, and welcome to Head-Fi!

Here are my take on your question.
The amplifier are the weak chain in all Stax systems. Meaning that the headphones are held back by the amplifier, and would perform better when driven by a more powerful amplifier.
Hence I think there are very little to gain from using a higher grade headphone (ex. SR-303 or SR-404) with the SRM-212 or SRM-252 (targeted the SR-202). Imo you will be better off with an SR-202, and to spend the extra money on amplification.

Which amplifier to go for is another discussion.
The SRM-252 is a great starter amplifier. Other options are the vintage SRM-1/MK2, or even using an SRD-7 (mk2 or Pro) with your favorite speaker amplifier.

Perhaps you can let us in on about how much you are thinking about spending? That might give you more detailed suggestions...

Take care!
post #3 of 24
i'm considering buying the Stax SRS-3050A Classic System.

http://www.audiocubes2.com/brand/Sta...ic_System.html

from what i can gather, this system (a 303/323A) may be the best bet in terms of price and performance. no idea if it fits within your budget.
post #4 of 24
Thread Starter 
thanks for your reply
I 'd like to stay below $500..
A new SRS-2050A (SR-202+SRM-252A) kit will cost me about the same as a new SR-303 with a second hand SRM-212 combined. (can't find any other cheap amplifier at this moment)
So this is my dilemma ...
more suggestions please
post #5 of 24
stax on the cheap means normal bias SR-5, SR-X, or Gamma with a transformer box. SR-3 or the electret stax are nominally cheaper but not worth the savings. Of course, opting for normal bias cuts the upgrade path pretty short, topping off with a Lambda. Any of these options will be well under your budget. So would an SR-001, but it seems you're looking for full size.

If you're thinking of going pro bias right off the bat, I'd suggest going for a pro transformer and not a cheap amp, assuming you have a good stereo amp to feed the box. Transformer sound is just fundamentally different from the amps, and so even if you added a great amp later, the transformer would still be useful to have around for a different sound potential.
post #6 of 24
i think that a srs-2050 is a great starting point at an attractive price. i wouldn't really consider either of these pieces something to build a system around, but you'll definitely get a good intro to the stax sound.

if you can come up with an extra $300, then the srs-3050 is a significant step up and something you could probably live with for a long time. if you wanted to experiment with used gear, the sr-303s are very nice phones and would allow you take full advantage of a srm-1mk2 or other older amp.
post #7 of 24
I'm happily using SR-404 with SRM-252. I used to have SRM-313, but i didn't hear much improvement of SRM-313 over SRM252, at least not enough for me to keep the bigger amp. With the budget, i'd go for the srm-252+SR202/sr303.
post #8 of 24
Thread Starter 
Quote:
I'm happily using SR-404 with SRM-252. I used to have SRM-313, but i didn't hear much improvement of SRM-313 over SRM252, at least not enough for me to keep the bigger amp. With the budget, i'd go for the srm-252+SR202/sr303.
Interesting suggestions guys. Now I now the path I have to walk
1 look for a 2ehand SRM-1/MK2 or SRM-212/252 to combine with a new sr-303s
2 if I can't get anything 2e hand buy a new SRS-2050A
3 If I can't live with the SRS-2050A save more and buy a SRS-3050A set

btw how many posts do you need before one can post in the trade/sell section of this forum ??
post #9 of 24
you need 50 posts to be able to create a new thread in the fs section. that doesn't mean you can't buy something that's for sale -- just pm them if you see something you like.

i think the approach of looking for a used srm-1mk2 pro is a good one. i would pair that with a sr-303 -- its a big step up from the 202.

if you can't put that together, i really would hold out until you can do a srs-3030/3050.
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by pipoplus View Post
Interesting suggestions guys. Now I now the path I have to walk
1 look for a 2ehand SRM-1/MK2 or SRM-212/252 to combine with a new sr-303s
2 if I can't get anything 2e hand buy a new SRS-2050A
3 If I can't live with the SRS-2050A save more and buy a SRS-3050A set
Looks like a nice plan.
The SRM-1/MK2 is a great little amplifier. I have one as a back-up amplifier, and it drive my Lambda phones (SR-Lambda Pro and SR-404) very well.

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btw how many posts do you need before one can post in the trade/sell section of this forum ??
Requirements:
* Registered for 30 days
* 50+ posts

Posting Requirements for the Gear For Sale/Trade Forums (sticky thread)
post #11 of 24
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies 50+ is a lot
To bad that hours reading post don't count; I love this forum
post #12 of 24
Just make short posts.
post #13 of 24
Use the post count whoring threads as so many do.

"what are you eating now" (every bite)

"what are you drinking now" (every sip)

"what are you listening to now" (every single song change)

"post the last thing you bought" (every single tiny everyday purchase)

Lots of people here like to keep themselves busy during the day by posting in these threads.
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by pipoplus View Post
Thanks for the replies 50+ is a lot
To bad that hours reading post don't count; I love this forum
Well. You have only been here for 10 days.
When you reach the 30 day point you might have reached 50 posts as well...
post #15 of 24
- obligatory "just get the SRS-005A and be happy" post -

Well within your budget, and still open to upgrades on all ends if you wish. Not everybody's cup of tea though, so do read up.
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