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post #46 of 238
The only place I've found to purchase the Pioneer from is AudioCubes...
Is there anywhere else that is cheaper?
post #47 of 238
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ph34rful
The only place I've found to purchase the Pioneer from is AudioCubes...
Is there anywhere else that is cheaper?
That's the only place I have found. Since the product is only available in Japan...the unit is pretty limited.

Also keep in mind the two Dolby Headphone processors that Philips is releasing next month in Europe...I bet Jan Meier will be carrying them and they are listed at a lower retail price in the Philips info.

Heres a thread on them:

http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showt...olby+headphone

John
post #48 of 238
Do you use your 6.1 system more than the headphones. I'm just curious. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you have as long as the room has good acoustics. Are you also having problems setting up your home theater system.

Hows does the Pioneer fair compared to it?

Does it do okay?

Obviously it's hard to enjoy it with bunch of friends, like you would in a full set-up.

I like DH because it breaks all the rules. You don't need to be in a certain room, you could be anywhere even outside.

In my case setting up a home theater is impossible that's why I want to get these, to enjoy my movies. Hopefully the philips will be better, they do use an optical approach. More discrete signal. That might beat the competition.
post #49 of 238

Finally Decided

Well after reading all the posts I could find here and at headwize, I have purchased the SE-XB1's from Audio Cubes. I found Four places on the net that sell the DIR1000C's. One had them listed for $650, another $595 and one at $530....so Audio Cubes does not look to bad at $409. Although (for me) that is still a big sticker for some surround sound headphones....but the reviews, combined with the amount of movies I watch at night when the kids are in bed, sold me. I had a pair of the AR AW-791 900Mhz "Dolby Digital" headphones. However...1) My three year old trashed them, & 2) I was not very angry with her because they sucked. Constant hiss in the background! I better make sure I keep the SE-XB1's out of her reach
post #50 of 238
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Quote:
Originally posted by sfxjames
Do you use your 6.1 system more than the headphones. I'm just curious. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you have as long as the room has good acoustics. Are you also having problems setting up your home theater system.

Hows does the Pioneer fair compared to it?

Does it do okay?

Obviously it's hard to enjoy it with bunch of friends, like you would in a full set-up.

When I am watching films every night I use the headphones. During the day I will sometimes use the 6.1 speakers...but I since joining Head-Fi I really prefer headphones for every type of listening. 99% of the time its HP now...no matter what time of day.

When friends are over, I use the speaker setup unless it's one guest...then I give them the choice.

I get much more involved in the film when I use headphones.
post #51 of 238
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Re: Finally Decided

Quote:
Originally posted by Astropin
Well after reading all the posts I could find here and at headwize, I have purchased the SE-XB1's from Audio Cubes.....the reviews, combined with the amount of movies I watch at night when the kids are in bed, sold me.
Congrats...I think you will be very pleased with this purchase...I use it daily so it has already paid for itself in pleasure.

John
post #52 of 238
I use the Pioneer almost daily and would agree with John that the supplied phones not only have burned in very nicely, but also that they are far superior to the Sony CD3ks (BTW John, I think I now have one of your earlier pairs, thanks!)

I also like listening with the Philips HP890, nice bass, but not quite as good on surround effects and airy-ness.
Sometimes, when you forget you have them one, it really seems you are in another world ( which is the whole idea i suppose) and can get shocked by the effects.

I agree with John that the cost has more than a little been outweighed by the many hours of listening and viewing pleasure gained.
I also use them in PLII for TV viewing, and again, apart from the odd voice effect, greatly enhance the experience.

In short, best money I ever spent in home audio!

My only gripe-ette is that sometimes I wish the volume could go a bit louder...
post #53 of 238
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Originally posted by dalida


In short, best money I ever spent in home audio!

My only gripe-ette is that sometimes I wish the volume could go a bit louder...
Agreed....especially using the Analog connection. No gripes with the digital volume levels.

John
post #54 of 238

iLink Firewire

Given that Pioneer are leading the way with iLink (Firewire) connectivity (on their DVD players & amplifiers), can we expect future Pioneer DH headphone units to also be Firewire enabled.
Then we could connect DVD-audio player directly to surround headphones!

Is this possible/likely? What do you think?

Dave
post #55 of 238
Can't you connect them using the Digital Optical.....or even the analog? Or are you just looking for a third input?
post #56 of 238
Hey JMedeiros is your home theater hooked up propperly?

I'll bet that if you spaced the speakers further apart the sound imaging will be much greater but not as precise as DH, because DH my guess has perfect seperation, so perfect that it seems to shrink the imaging making it sound a bit small at first to the average home theater enthusiast, when it is the fact that most of them use smaller screens which don't present a real impressive perspective of the action in the first place.

Let's say you have a 32" TV with a home theater system you hooked up. The imaging sounds very impressive but at times too spread out, too close.

Your friend who works for dolby is actually gracious enough
to calibrate and install your system with precise sounding imaging.

You notice one difference the speakers he set-up are much closer now compared to how they were.

Hmmm.

The sounds futher away from your head sound much more distant and sounds do seem to come more from the screen now, at the same time more tightly woven together.

You put on your favorite sound demo clip. A ship heading closer and closer to the screen.

It doesn't sound as big as a freight truck crashing through your house anymore, more like a toy truck popping out of your TV set and a bit further away from your head.

The precise imaging did improve, the bullets only seem to pop out a couple feet rather than clear across the room.

It's almost as if the whole impressive in your face sound field has been tucked back inside your screen, more away from your head rather than closer to it.

See what I mean? DH must bring out the image a bit more closer to the head with more detail, so you can appreciate the precise imaging as well as a slightly closer perspective.

This is why some reviews for dolby headphone tend to vary.

People saying it doesn't sound as impressive as their home theater forget that it could be their set-up that's at fault or the size of their screen or it's a new sound image their not use to quite yet.

The Bigger the screen, the bigger perspective of the action on-screen with precise imaging.

END OF STORY.

but anyhow Jmedeiros is your home theater hooked up right, or are you having trouble with speaker placement?
post #57 of 238
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<<but anyhow Jmedeiros is your home theater hooked up right, or are you having trouble with speaker placement?>>



My home theater system is hooked up perfectly to my ears. As as matter of fact, I just upgraded my cables and removed the speaker grills then recalibrated and it sounds better than any NY movie house to my ears. I love how it sounds when I am entertaining guests but I also like using my DH processor in the evenings.

Bottom line....since coming to Head-Fi...I really prefer most of my listening via headphones regardless of how good my speakers sound.

John
post #58 of 238
Hey John, one more question.

Do you think I should wait for the philips DH product?

According the original designer I talked to through email,
the amplifier on the pioneer alone was designed to power the HD600s as well as the wireless.

The Philips' headphones, are only 32 ohm, pioneers must be more than that perhaps.

How many ohms are those Pioneer headphones?

That alone says to us that the amp on the pioneer is way better than the one for the philips.

What's your view on the two products?
post #59 of 238

pioneer xb1

hey john thanx for al the reviews it really helped me a lot and I've ordered the pioneer xb1 to audiocubes. I've been reading your reviews and it really helped me a lot. Where did you connect you optical input from the DH??? did you connect it to your amplifiers output??? or direct to your DVD player??? how long is the supplied optical cable from your DIR1000C???? IN the covered range of 10meters from the can do you get any static noise or any awkward sound????
post #60 of 238
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Quote:
Originally posted by sfxjames
Hey John, one more question.

Do you think I should wait for the philips DH product?

I have not heard the Philips, so I cannot comment on it. However, why not wait till reviews come in on that unit...also Pioneer has a new model coming out soon.

You waited this long, you might as well wait a bit more and have a real selection.

John
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