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post #196 of 238
I'm glad you like the XB1.

A. Dejkorn
post #197 of 238
Has anyone compared the quality/realism of the Pioneer DH unit to the DH output of an AV amplifer (high end Marantz & Denon have DH output).
How do the 2 compare?

Also, how long before DH becomes a standard feature on mid range amplifiers, DVD players, etc.? Are any other manufacturers likely to follow Denon's example?

Finally, will there be a new generation of HDMI equipped DH units to enable surround sound headphone listening from DVD-A & SACD sources? (...drool !...)

Thanks in advance
post #198 of 238
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Originally posted by bozebuttons
I picked up a xb1 from another headfi member. After hearing Johns setup at the Ny meet I knew I had to have one.
Super! Wecome to the joys of Dolby Headphone. Kids really do seem to like it alot. I have had friends kids here and all it takes to keep them in one place is to put on a DVD and plop the headphones on their heads....instant peacemaker.

John
post #199 of 238
Quote:
Originally posted by BAD Dave
Has anyone compared the quality/realism of the Pioneer DH unit to the DH output of an AV amplifer (high end Marantz & Denon have DH output).
How do the 2 compare?
I haven't heard DH receivers, but I would expect that their quality would equal or exceed the Pioneer unit.

Dolby Headphone has been extremely slow to take off -- an issue of licensing fees, no doubt. There are quite a few "Dolby Headphone" like processing algorithms -- I've listened to the ones from Sony and Panasonic and consider them to be far inferior to real Dolby Headphone.
post #200 of 238
Well good news, I got my SE-XB1 just recently.

Anyone know how long it takes to recharge the headphones?

Should I recharge them for 10 hours or more?
post #201 of 238
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Originally posted by Music Fanatic

There are quite a few "Dolby Headphone" like processing algorithms -- I've listened to the ones from Sony and Panasonic and consider them to be far inferior to real Dolby Headphone.

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I agree, the Dolby Headphone algorithm sounds much better in creating the sonic image on headphones.



W
post #202 of 238
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Originally posted by sfxjames
Well good news, I got my SE-XB1 just recently.

Anyone know how long it takes to recharge the headphones?


Should I recharge them for 10 hours or more?

James...congrats! You finally got them.

The "charge" light will go out when they are recharged. make sure you charge them fully the first time you use them.
John
post #203 of 238
I just picked up the 1000's and so far I love em. The only complaint is they could be a bit bassier, even though the bass that's there is very accurate. Wonder if I should have gone with the Xbox version?
post #204 of 238
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Originally posted by HeadKase
I just picked up the 1000's and so far I love em. The only complaint is they could be a bit bassier, even though the bass that's there is very accurate. Wonder if I should have gone with the Xbox version?
Stick with it for a while (as if you have a choice) and you will find the Pioneers improve with burn-in just like most other phones.

I have tried other phones (Sony CD3Ks) but prefer the space, ambient detail on the supplied Pioneers.
post #205 of 238
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Originally posted by dalida
Stick with it for a while (as if you have a choice) and you will find the Pioneers improve with burn-in just like most other phones.

I have tried other phones (Sony CD3Ks) but prefer the space, ambient detail on the supplied Pioneers.
That was my experience as well. I got to where I reallly preferred the supplied Pioneer cans to my other high end cans.

I am currently breaking in the cans with the 1000s little brother the 800...these are closed instead of open and about 1/3rd the size. They seem to be opening up with each listening,

John
post #206 of 238
How do the 800's compare to the 1000's in the bass department? Maybe that has more to do with the amplifier. In fact how do the amplifiers compare between the 800 and 1000?
post #207 of 238
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Originally posted by HeadKase
How do the 800's compare to the 1000's in the bass department? Maybe that has more to do with the amplifier. In fact how do the amplifiers compare between the 800 and 1000?
I originally had a clipping problem with the 1000 cans with big explosions, deep LFE tones, etc...it got better with burn-in but never went away. Out of the box the 800s had no clipping in the same DVD sections.

The amp seems better with the new 800...It can drive the phones to slightly louder volumes and there is a richer sound with more focused dialog and sound cues. This could also be due to the closed nature of the 800 phones. The older 1000s are open style.

I will be posting a full review of the 800s later today with comparisons to the 1000s included.
John
post #208 of 238
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Originally posted by JMedeiros
I originally had a clipping problem with the 1000 cans with big explosions, deep LFE tones, etc...it got better with burn-in but never went away. Out of the box the 800s had no clipping in the same DVD sections.
You know, it is so strange that this was your experience, because I never had this experience, either with the supplied wireless 'phones or wired 'phones. Presumably, you had digital input on this, so issues with the attenuation switch would not apply. I wonder if there was simply an engineering change made to the unit between when you received it and when I received it.
post #209 of 238
I haven't either noticed a clipping problem. At first I thought the 1000's weren't bassy enough, but after listening more to them I find they're very accurate just without a lot of articificial warmth. I'm very satisfied with 1000's and find I get better overall sound quality with them than my B&W, Rotel seperates 5.1 sound setup. Quite a feat for $400.
post #210 of 238
I know what it is. It's the DVD player functions. My DVD player has a function where you can turn the volume to sufficient level for smaller speakers. So why couldn't this apply to dolby headphone. There is an audio toolbox, that gives me a wide set of features, one of them allows me switch the volume for small speakers to reduce clipping. It might be a matter of playing with features on your DVD player, if not well then I guess it's the 1000's.
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