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post #16 of 238
Must...Avoid...Temptation...
post #17 of 238
I just ordered the XBox version. One question: does the unit come with an optical cable, or do I need to purchase another before it arrives?

I can't wait to hear this thing with CD3000s or DT880s.
post #18 of 238
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Spad
I just ordered the XBox version. One question: does the unit come with an optical cable, or do I need to purchase another before it arrives?

I can't wait to hear this thing with CD3000s or DT880s.
The DIR1000s came with an optical cord. I would assume the XBox package does too. I have an extra if you end up needing one.
John
post #19 of 238
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Originally posted by JMedeiros
The DIR1000s came with an optical cord. I would assume the XBox package does too. I have an extra if you end up needing one.
John
Thanks for the offer, John. As you said, it will likely come with a cable, so I should be okay.

Do you have any idea what the differences are between the two models? I'm not too thrilled with the idea of a piece of prime audio gear emblazoned with the XBox name. And I can't imagine why yours wouldn't be great for XBox use. Think it may just be a marketing ploy?
post #20 of 238
He said the XBox set had a Bass Boost feature. Other than that I havent read any about any differences between the two.
post #21 of 238
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Spad
Thanks for the offer, John. As you said, it will likely come with a cable, so I should be okay.

Do you have any idea what the differences are between the two models? I'm not too thrilled with the idea of a piece of prime audio gear emblazoned with the XBox name. And I can't imagine why yours wouldn't be great for XBox use. Think it may just be a marketing ploy?
There definately is some kind of bass enhancement in the XBox version. A fellow Head-Fier told me and I eventually found it in a short article. Other than that and the XBox logo and color scheme, I believe they are identical.

Here is the one reference I was able to find in my search..they describe it as having "an adjustment to the low-range boost qualities of the
phones".

Just scroll down to about the 8th. blurb:

http://www.japaninc.net/newsletters/?list=gw&issue=65

It would be interesting to find out if the bass boost is controlled from the processor unit or the cans themselves and if it can be disabled. Looking at the photo of the SE-XB1 at Audio Cubes, I do not see an extra button or switch on the front panel. Perhaps you could inquire to Audio Cubes directly.

John
post #22 of 238
Ahhh, you're a font of knowledge, John. Thanks for the info.
post #23 of 238
Excellent review!

I've been waiting for your review since your post in my DH rant thread.
It seems like we may have a winner.
Are the phones RF or IF?
(if they cut off when you lose line of sight then its IF)
Have you tried any music through the wireless cans with the processing off? (is it defeatable?)
Its much easier to design a good sounding phones for movies than music. Playing music through them will uncover their flaws that may be masked by movie use only.
post #24 of 238
I found out that they are indeed IF.
Can you tell me the usable range?

All we need now is a face off with the Sony MDR-DS5100!
post #25 of 238
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Originally posted by bootman
I found out that they are indeed IF.
Can you tell me the usable range?

All we need now is a face off with the Sony MDR-DS5100!
That face off would be very cool. I can bring my Pioneers to the NYC meet in May ..someone else will need to bring the Sonys

According to a diagram in the Japanese manual..the range is 10 meters on the IR.

You can indeed defeat the Dolby Headphone effect with the select button and set it to regular stereo. I listened to a bit of Springsteens The Rising just now and the sound is nice and full..pretty detailed but a bit bright musically for my tastes. Maybe its those aluminum cups.This brightness works for the movie viewing for me though...adds a liveliness. I have been listening to my music on the Senns so I am used to a more laid back sound.

John
post #26 of 238
AWESOME REVIEW!!!!!

These headphones give me something to look forward to in my future of headphone usage. I will have to get these some day! But for now I'll stick with Portapros or maybe some other cheap headphones.

Would you say that these are better than your home theater system, in sound quality and surround sound wise?
post #27 of 238
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Originally posted by C4 Suke
AWESOME REVIEW!!!!!

These headphones give me something to look forward to in my future of headphone usage. I will have to get these some day! But for now I'll stick with Portapros or maybe some other cheap headphones.

Would you say that these are better than your home theater system, in sound quality and surround sound wise?
Hi-

No...I cannot say they are better... Especially with the front placed sounds and the LFE bass track carried by my subwoofer. But what Dolby Headphone does provide is the same type of listening experience that hearing music through headphones does for me. I hear more details and it is a bit more involving for me. I feel more intimate with the movie and its characters.

Plus, I can listen to films into the night instead of disturbing my neighbors. Subwoofers after supper can be a real lease-breaker.
post #28 of 238
To make it a fair fight it would be great if someone could compare the Pioneer with the new improved Sony surround system, numbered 8000 or so, rather than the older MDR-DS5100.

[old people digress a lot...]
I am a Sony fan (wild horses could not remove my Sony TV, though six elephants might barely handle the weight), but after having listened to the 5100's for a few dozen hours, and after reading JMedeiros' most excellent review of the Pioneer SE-DIR1000C , I must sadly but with considerable confidence predict a 49 second knockout for the Pioneer team. Sigh. I really do like Sony....
post #29 of 238
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kenny
To make it a fair fight it would be great if someone could compare the Pioneer with the new improved Sony surround system, numbered 8000 or so, rather than the older MDR-DS5100.

[old people digress a lot...]
I am a Sony fan (wild horses could not remove my Sony TV, though six elephants might barely handle the weight), but after having listened to the 5100's for a few dozen hours, and after reading JMedeiros' most excellent review of the Pioneer SE-DIR1000C , I must sadly but with considerable confidence predict a 49 second knockout for the Pioneer team. Sigh. I really do like Sony....
I would love to hear both the Sony 5100s and the 8000s. They use a processing different from Dolby Headphone. It would be fun to check them out as well.

I'm with you on the SONY TVs..I've been a Sony man for 16 years and I bet the same 6 elephants dragged my 250 pound Wega up my apartment stairs
John
post #30 of 238
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a small observation

I noticed something last night while using my Pioneers. I mentioned in my review that the cans are made of brushed aluminum and rather machine-like in construction. The cups move freely up and down on metal pivots that are attached to the headband tubes. Well...this does aid in the comfort level of the phones, but every once in a while if I move my head side to side, I hear a metalic "pinging" sound from the metal on metal pivots. This is only once in while and it does not spoil my listening experience, but it is unwelcome. I notice it if I adjust the cans on my head during listening as well.

It's a minor observation, but since we are talking about sound here....I felt the need to mention it as it may be bothersome to some folks.

I have added this info to my review here and on the reviews board.

John
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