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Definitely the most important of early feature-length horror films I would say, but for sheer ancientness, my money is on this 1895 silent short by Thomas Edison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpNQJV8KblQ

Surely the first use of prosthetic limbs for horrorific effect! biggrin.gif  



Also maybe most did not understand how film worked. Most seeing the movie did not realize that an edit took place at the exact point that the blade was coming down, that the body replaced with a prop? How could even the basic understanding of motion photography be understood by the public in 1895. This putting of the piece of film in historic context, makes it seem that much more powerful. IMO

There was a time before the Internet and before DVDs when all you could do is read about lost films. One such movie was the 1967 prison talent show documentary "Titicut Follies".

Finally upon viewing you realize why the film caused such havoc. Again betting on morbid curiosity to garner box office revenue. The movie takes you to places that few see, and no one really understands.





9/10
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The translation is Terror to Space. Nothing to do with vampires. But maybe American International was having good luck with vampire movies in the mid-sixties. If the same movie was an Italian/Spanish production today, it would maybe be marketed as Zombies From Space? We forget at times how totally important a title is to movie success even if it is misleadingly Inaccurate. Lol

 

A part of the renaming was to avoid confusion with It: the Terror from Beyond Space which had come out in 59.  

Planet of the Raptors, perhaps?

 

It was that 60's look and feel that was largely responsible for the success of Kubrik's 2001. It took the concept of plausable future science and immersed the audience in a scenario that felt real without any apparent gimmiks.

Then of course we got into the 70's where they perverted that look into ultra mod and finally we wound up with Star Wars where Lucas was so tired of the clean tech look he purposely designed a "dirty" universe that had a very used look to it.

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Then of course we got into the 70's where they perverted that look into ultra mod and finally we wound up with Star Wars where Lucas was so tired of the clean tech look he purposely designed a "dirty" universe that had a very used look to it.

 

Yeah that's an important point about Lucas; it was a very conscious vision he had with the 'used universe' - he's talked about it a number of times in interviews. Whatever one thinks of his later "work", he broke new ground aesthetically with Star Wars, if nothing else - it's a look that endures in sci-fi films to this day.

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Yeah that's an important point about Lucas; it was a very conscious vision he had with the 'used universe' - he's talked about it a number of times in interviews. Whatever one thinks of his later "work", he broke new ground aesthetically with Star Wars, if nothing else - it's a look that endures in sci-fi films to this day.

Then why did he go clean with the new trilogy? Did he get tired of the dirt look :)

 

There is lots of clean sci fi still. Oblivion for example. 

 

Just watched Martyrs. This is supposed to be some cult movie but it just had a bad contrived story that make little sense and I didn´t really care much for the characters. Spent a lot of effort to make the gore look good but I bet they didn´t get any Oscar for it ;)

 

I can give it a 2/5 due to the gore but in a way that feels lika minus point :p

 

One thing confused me 

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When the cult group arrived or what to call them they shot what I thought was the girl that shot the family. But then she was in the sofa? Then they bury one body to much. They made it out to be just her inner demon but was she real all of a sudden. We never get to see her coming back to save the other girl next door after the escape which she seemed to feel guilty about leaving there.
 
Also the backstory where Anna had produced some really super torture devices to keep the self destructive girl alive I suppose. She was with the group all along and the escape was planned or what?
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Just watched Martyrs. This is supposed to be some cult movie but it just had a bad contrived story that make little sense and I didn´t really care much for the characters. Spent a lot of effort to make the gore look good but I bet they didn´t get any Oscar for it ;)

 

I can give it a 2/5 due to the gore but in a way that feels lika minus point :p

 

 

I think you and I have quite different taste in films my friend :wink_face: Martyrs is one of the few horrors made in the last decade that I've rated a perfect 10. The journey that film takes you on is immense - without spoilers, I'd just say that from where you start, you could never begin to predict where you end up. It also plays with the genre, moving through everything from the supernatural through to body horror. I just wish more directors had Laugier's vision to do something so unique instead of churning out the usual cookie cutter crap - I must have seen The Exorcist about 20 times with various different titles!

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But after seeing Hostel, SAW etc this don´t feel unique whatsoever. Maybe the trick would be see this before hunger, saw, hostel etc :)

 

I felt like a psychopath watching this movie as I truly didn´t feel anything whatsoever in the torture scenes they just lined them up and I actually wasn´t surprised on any turn. Beside the huge story hole mentioned.

I enjoyed Funny Games more than this.

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But after seeing Hostel, SAW etc this don´t feel unique whatsoever. Maybe the trick would be see this before hunger, saw, hostel etc :)

 

I felt like a psychopath watching this movie as I truly didn´t feel anything whatsoever in the torture scenes they just lined them up and I actually wasn´t surprised on any turn. Beside the huge story hole mentioned.

I enjoyed Funny Games more than this.

 

Not even close - try watching Franck Khalfoun's remake of Maniac. Total POV. Also brilliant BTW, and one instance where IMDbers don't know schitt.

 

I dunno, I think Hostel, SAW etc. are all pretty run of the mill. Marytrs has a much more inventive story line and is genuinely disturbing IMO. Films like Hostel are pretty one-dimensional in their extremity, which doesn't surprise me cos Roth is a hack - you only have to see The Green Inferno to know that: he wishes he was making Cannibal Holocaust II...

 

With you on Haneke though - guy's something like a genius from what I've seen.

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 I actually wasn´t surprised on any turn. 

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You weren't surprised that a seemingly normal family breakfast was interrupted by a crazed gunwoman? You weren't surprised to find apparently loving parents actually had a lab and torture chamber hidden in their basement? You weren't surprised that they were working for a transcendental death cult?

 

You must take a lot of surprising!

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Not even close - try watching Franck Khalfoun's remake of Maniac. Total POV. Also brilliant BTW, and one instance where IMDbers don't know schitt.

 

I dunno, I think Hostel, SAW etc. are all pretty run of the mill. Marytrs has a much more inventive story line and is genuinely disturbing IMO. Films like Hostel are pretty one-dimensional in their extremity, which doesn't surprise me cos Roth is a hack - you only have to see The Green Inferno to know that: he wishes he was making Cannibal Holocaust II...

 

With you on Haneke though - guy's something like a genius from what I've seen.


Ok which version of Funny Games are we talking about?

 

I still think I Saw The Devil is pretty much the epitome of Horror/Suspense. It actually had a plausible plot.

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Ok which version of Funny Games are we talking about?

 

I still think I Saw The Devil is pretty much the epitome of Horror/Suspense. It actually had a plausible plot.

 

There's more than one version of Funny Games?

 

I Saw The Devil didn't do a lot for me - felt somewhat disjointed and just didn't engage. I'm not really a fan of the Korean revenge thriller sub-genre at all though - they all tend to be very nicely shot but are ultimately pretty hollow. Style over substance, like Oldboy.


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There's more than one version of Funny Games?

 

I Saw The Devil didn't do a lot for me - felt somewhat disjointed and just didn't engage. I'm not really a fan of the Korean revenge thriller sub-genre at all though - they all tend to be very nicely shot but are ultimately pretty hollow. Style over substance, like Oldboy.


You are going to find this interesting.

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808279/

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119167/?ref_=nv_sr_2

 

 

I find with most Korean film, folks are polarized. Either into it or hate it. Very few in the middle ground.

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There's more than one version of Funny Games?

I Saw The Devil didn't do a lot for me - felt somewhat disjointed and just didn't engage. I'm not really a fan of the Korean revenge thriller sub-genre at all though - they all tend to be very nicely shot but are ultimately pretty hollow. Style over substance, like Oldboy.


My favorite revenge movies are the Female Scorpion Series. I simply love the films. Japan made .

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I find with most Korean film, folks are polarized. Either into it or hate it. Very few in the middle ground.

 

You mean Korean revenge thrillers? I've nothing against Korean film in general - seen some excellent Korean films in fact, like Memories of Murder and 4 Inyong Shiktak. I just don't go much for the revenge thrillers personally as I generally find them rather tedious. Hate is a strong word though! I'll reserve that for the likes of Titanic :wink_face: 


Edited by WraithApe - Yesterday at 4:50 pm
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  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

You weren't surprised that a seemingly normal family breakfast was interrupted by a crazed gunwoman? You weren't surprised to find apparently loving parents actually had a lab and torture chamber hidden in their basement? You weren't surprised that they were working for a transcendental death cult?

 

You must take a lot of surprising!

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It´s a revenge movie why would they cut to that scene otherwise if not to kill them off :)
Would the couple advertise to the world they are transcendental cult fans and torture people?
 
What surprised a bit was what I mentioned before that Anna herself was a pro torturer. You don´t hammer in bolts in your friends skull etc to prevent her from hurting herself maybe it was her that called the transcendental cult up nog being able to control Lucie? Still very contrived story 
 
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"John Wick" [7.4/10]: Keanu Reeves knows how to do a choreographed fight scene...he hasn't lost it since "The Matrix." Fun Saturday night On-Demand movie...

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