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post #15181 of 16034
The Great Beauty - 4/10

Rented this because I loved the directors previous film with Sean Penn called "This Must be the place".

This one was like torture watching. The only thing it had going for it is the nice scenery and some of the music.

1 hour and 41 minutes in I was hoping so bad it would end, but then it had over 40 minutes to go!!!

Max Manus: Man of War - 6/10

About the underground resistance during WWII. How could such an interesting story be so dull? Watch "Army of Shadows" instead. "Black Book" is also good.
post #15182 of 16034

^ That post was mine. Weird, I got automatically logged into an account I didn't know I had from 2007 with 3 posts. Bizarre. Stupid google tablet did it I think.

 

Anyway, here is one more:

 

1984 - 6/10

 

This one just doesn't work well as a movie. I should read the book instead. Very dull and barely enough of interest to be worth watching. It does however make me think a bit, but I hated the experience of watching the actual movie. Going to read the book soon...

post #15183 of 16034
Yup - you should have read the book and skipped the movie. Now that you have formed an opinion, the book might not seem as good as it could have been if you had read it first.

The same goes for Brave New World - for gawd's sake don't watch that awful film with Leonard Nimoy - read (or listen) to the book!
post #15184 of 16034

12 Years a Slave

 

just started it but, 10/10 for the intro! 

post #15185 of 16034

Solaris (1972) - 8,5

 

What a surreal experience, almost like daydreaming!
The slow pace of the movie in certain moments can be a torture but it pays off to see it all, Tarkovsky sculpted a work that slowly modifies and persuades our state of mind and mood culminating in an unforgettable defiance of the logic of reality.
Perfect demonstration that our perception of reality is always relativistic and prone to misinterpretation.
Excelent thematic substance with some common points shared with Stalker (where they are worked more indepth), several philosophical and ethical problems are raised in this film:
Are Science mechanisms enough to extract all the knowledge we need from reality?
How much does subjective experience count into it?
How to deal with a previously existing human replica that appears almost out of nowhere?
What Are we? Do we love real beings or illusions? Among other things...
All this is developed in a plot where Tarkovsky wanted to emphasize the psychological condition of humans in a peculiar reality.
I think this movie like no other is able to remind me about the absurd and preciousness of human experience and consciousness in the universe. Not to say that we are alone as intelligent life form, but what are the chances that we find anything else like us? All other life forms can be so entirely different, we'll eventually be forced to ask ourselves if our definition of "Life" is incomplete or if it makes any sense at all, still an open debate.
The first 30/45 minutes progression was a bit boring, there was something unnatural, off-putting I can hardly identify, maybe I noticed the technical limitations more clearly in that period due to the slow pace. There's something strange about the sound, voices weren't recorded live and seem to be disproportionately louder than most other sounds, sound effects and score can be hardly heard at times... I don't know if this was a result of deliberate choice or just negligence... it distracted quite a bit in the first half of the movie, one of the major factors that augmented the awkwardness I felt, but curiously it seems to have contributed for the quality of the experience on the second half all the way to the end, the peculiar sound work improved the singular quality of Solaris, the same I say for Stalker...
The soundtrack is hauntigly beautiful and melancholic, the cinematography and camera work are unfortunately not as sophisticated as in Stalker, still competent though.
The aesthetics of Solaris is therefore less singular, more vulgar and it's a conventional cinematic exercise, there's no intelectual plot here, apparently Stalker was the more ambicious work from Tarkovsky, linguistically speaking, but I've yet to see his other works. Still there is wonderful and evocative imagery to be seen in this scify movie and it has great emotional and intelectual depth, although the acting could be better overall.
I feel this movie is excessively slow at the begining, Tarkovsky seemed to not give a damn about the potentially racking nature of his movies on the viewers, he'll gladly torture us for a long period before gracing us with cinematic generosity towards the end, he's on his right to do whatever he want, it's his contribute to the art of cinema in his own way.
But I can't shake the feeling that the deliberate slow pace of his movies is more harmful than beneficial to the experience, it's very easy to shift attention away from the film and consequently be reminded that I'm just watching it, not living it. The immersion factor, so important to me, is rather delicate in Solaris and Stalker.
If not for this I'd rate his movies higher, I guess it's a simple matter of being in the right mood.
Anyway Solaris is a movie of great poetic beauty and a fascinating philosophical mindtrip that deeply touches our brains and hearts.
I highly recommend it!


Edited by kkl10 - 2/27/14 at 7:25am
post #15186 of 16034

Just ordered the full series on blue ray of breaking bad..i never watched the show once but heard it's good!

post #15187 of 16034
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Originally Posted by kkl10 View Post

Solaris (1972) - 8,5

What a surreal experience, almost like daydreaming!

The slow pace of the movie in certain moments can be a torture but it pays off to see it all, Tarkovsky sculpted a work that slowly modifies and persuades our state of mind and mood culminating in an unforgettable defiance of the logic of reality.

Perfect demonstration that our perception of reality is always relativistic and prone to misinterpretation.

Excelent thematic substance with some common points shared with Stalker (where they are worked more indepth), several philosophical and ethical problems are raised in this film:

Are Science mechanisms enough to extract all the knowledge we need from reality?

How much does subjective experience count into it?

How to deal with a previously existing human replica that appears almost out of nowhere?

What Are we? Do we love real beings or illusions? Among other things...

All this is developed in a plot where Tarkovsky wanted to emphasize the psychological condition of humans in a peculiar reality.

I think this movie like no other is able to remind me about the absurd and preciousness of human experience and consciousness in the universe. Not to say that we are alone as intelligent life form, but what are the chances that we find anything else like us? All other life forms can be so entirely different, we'll eventually be forced to ask ourselves if our definition of "Life" is incomplete or if it makes any sense at all, still an open debate.

The first 30/45 minutes progression was a bit boring, there was something unnatural, off-putting I can hardly identify, maybe I noticed the technical limitations more clearly in that period due to the slow pace. There's something strange about the sound, voices weren't recorded live and seem to be disproportionately louder than most other sounds, sound effects and score can be hardly heard at times... I don't know if this was a result of deliberate choice or just negligence... it distracted quite a bit in the first half of the movie, one of the major factors that augmented the awkwardness I felt, but curiously it seems to have contributed for the quality of the experience on the second half all the way to the end, the peculiar sound work improved the singular quality of Solaris, the same I say for Stalker...

The soundtrack is hauntigly beautiful and melancholic, the cinematography and camera work are unfortunately not as sophisticated as in Stalker, still competent though.

The aesthetics of Solaris is therefore less singular, more vulgar and it's a conventional cinematic exercise, there's no intelectual plot here, apparently Stalker was the more ambicious work from Tarkovsky, linguistically speaking, but I've yet to see his other works. Still there is wonderful and evocative imagery to be seen in this scify movie and it has great emotional and intelectual depth, although the acting could be better overall.

I feel this movie is excessively slow at the begining, Tarkovsky seemed to not give a damn about the potentially racking nature of his movies on the viewers, he'll gladly torture us for a long period before gracing us with cinematic generosity towards the end, he's on his right to do whatever he want, it's his contribute to the art of cinema in his own way.

But I can't shake the feeling that the deliberate slow pace of his movies is more harmful than beneficial to the experience, it's very easy to shift attention away from the film and consequently be reminded that I'm just watching it, not living it. The immersion factor, so important to me, is rather delicate in Solaris and Stalker.

If not for this I'd rate his movies higher, I guess it's a simple matter of being in the right mood.

Anyway Solaris is a movie of great poetic beauty and a fascinating philosophical mindtrip that deeply touches our brains and hearts.

I highly recommend it!



I have always though that the slow pace in the first 40 minutes did payoff, making the film seem more real in the second half. It was almost that the movie script was so very apart from our perception of reality that there had to be a developed framework for the plot early on. Hence the slow build-up to the craziness.

The music is called music concrete which is made with only recorded natural sounds processed with tape. This is a great novelty in the Sci/Fi genre with the common use of electronic-synth sounds in the music. There is even a vinyl record of the soundtrack which I have seen.

I have wondered if the pace was better when the movie was released as it seems many movies were slower than today. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I have always been amazed at the segment of his replica wife being frozen and cold. The fact that actors would do many things then that could not be done today for safety reasons makes the movie that much more classic.


Much of the movie is a homage to Kubrick's 2001, and I get the feeling so much of the silent slow segments were inspired by Kubrick's style.
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There is a big message in the movie letting the viewer know that what is composed in our personal imagination can make intervention into our future reality, if we concentrate. Thus the message was "The power of the mind".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_(novel)
Ultimately the folks on this thread who read the book, say the movie is true to the novel.
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So you come to understand that after the planet was threatened it's response was to have the inner thoughts of the scientists become a reality
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For whatever reason I thought the planet actually may have been God but those views were put to rest by the folks here who read the novel.

Edited by Redcarmoose - 2/27/14 at 8:05am
post #15188 of 16034
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Solaris (1972) - 8,5

 

 apparently Stalker was the more ambicious work from Tarkovsky, linguistically speaking, but I've yet to see his other works. 

 

The most epic and grandiose film of Tarkovsky was Andrei Rublev ( 1966) in my opinion. His later films lost in scale and expansion. If I were asked to pick only one of his films, it would be Rublev.

 

So Russian movie Stalingrad is in wide release in America. I've decided to skip it when it was running in our theaters because I find director Bondarchuk platitudinous.

 

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The Russian Oscar committee has announced Fyodor Bondarchuk's World War II action-drama Stalingrad as the country’s contender in the best foreign-language movie Oscar race.
 
The Chinese release of the film is planned at 3,200 screens – an unprecedented number for a Russian film.

 

There is a problem with "Stalingrad" in Russia. It was the biggest blockbuster there financially. But there were many who didn't like the movie. There are many who call Bondarchuk Besdarchuk ( Besdar - mediocrity). Major Russian film awards haven't chosen Stalingrad as the best film ( it was "The Geographer Drank His globe Away" which grabbed main awards and was favorite among critics). The most popular Russian film last year was Legend #17 - a biopic about Soviet hockey player Harlamov.

 

As one critic nailed it:

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Stalingrad is certainly watchable in its overwrought bombast, but it's less a film than a $30m ideological monument. 

 

BTW, if somebody is interested, here are the premieres in our theaters this week:

 

Dhoom:3 ( India) have watched it today

Dallas Buyers Club 

Her

Philomena 

Vampire Academy*

Hard to Be a God ( Russia)

Spiral ( Russia)*

Legok Na Pomine ( Russia)*

 

* = am going to skip


Edited by mutabor - 2/27/14 at 1:18pm
post #15189 of 16034

Cloud Atlas 

 

11/10

 

Wow what a good movie! Yea the philosphy is simply, but it's multiplicity. We saw the same actors as 4 different people, a number of cross dressed charecters as well 

 

 

And I have a new favorite villian!

 

It really is a good movie, visually really awesome, the story is told by multiple people, all different but all equally the same in a sense as well.  Just a joy to watch, and it'll be a joy to re watch as well! 

post #15190 of 16034

The Words - 8/10.  Love the story within the stories, and as usual a brilliant performance by one of my favorite actors, Jeremy Irons. A few replacements of actor/actress (Quaid and Wilde) and stop the film about 10 minutes earlier, and it would have gotten a 10/10.

post #15191 of 16034
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The most epic and grandiose film of Tarkovsky was Andrei Rublev ( 1966) in my opinion. His later films lost in scale and expansion. If I were asked to pick only one of his films, it would be Rublev.

 

 

Also contains one of my favorite scenes in film history--the bell-ringing scene. 

post #15192 of 16034
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The Words - 8/10.  Love the story within the stories, and as usual a brilliant performance by one of my favorite actors, Jeremy Irons. A few replacements of actor/actress (Quaid and Wilde) and stop the film about 10 minutes earlier, and it would have gotten a 10/10.

I watched that one recently as well...I didn't expect much, but I really enjoyed it. It's the "Crash-like" - story within a story aspect that I like as you mentioned...

post #15193 of 16034
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Cloud Atlas 

 

11/10

 

Wow what a good movie! Yea the philosphy is simply, but it's multiplicity. We saw the same actors as 4 different people, a number of cross dressed charecters as well 

 

 

 

And I have a new favorite villian!

 

It really is a good movie, visually really awesome, the story is told by multiple people, all different but all equally the same in a sense as well.  Just a joy to watch, and it'll be a joy to re watch as well! 

 

 

I have to agree...this movie affected me on a very emotional level. And in all honesty, I can't even put my finger on some of the reasons as to why it did. I just know that I was captivated by all that was going on and in the end I felt like I had been on an emotional roller coaster. 

post #15194 of 16034
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I have to agree...this movie affected me on a very emotional level. And in all honesty, I can't even put my finger on some of the reasons as to why it did. I just know that I was captivated by all that was going on and in the end I felt like I had been on an emotional roller coaster. 

Yea that too... it's just a good movie I'd love to watch it wid the family on our high def tv :O the glorious 50 inch 1080p goodness 

post #15195 of 16034
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Just ordered the full series on blue ray of breaking bad..i never watched the show once but heard it's good!

 

Oh, it's way way way beyond good, my friend. It's a rare show that keeps getting better and better as you go. I find that some shows come off as if they're just reaching for filler material just to keep the thing going, but this show is not like that. It's the most satisfying show I've ever seen in the sense that they respect the viewer. I'm actually jealous of anyone who hasn't seen it, cause I know the ride they have ahead of them. Enjoy!

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