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post #12316 of 16049

The director's cut strips away the unnecessary narration, much like the superior cuts of Bladerunner. It does add some footage, but nothing of really grave importance--mostly just establishing shots and slightly extended scenes, if I recall correctly. There's nothing quite as impactful as the 'early' ending in Bladerunner, or the unicorn scene, but it's still a better experience than the theatrical version by some distance, in my opinion.

 

I suppose the film-noir style of it might throw some people off, but I find that it gives the film a special character that a lot of sci-fis lack. Its homages don't end there either--it also visually pays tribute to several silent film classics, as well as to Akira. Oh yes, and there is a very sneaky (maybe just flat-out unintentional) 2001 reference.

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X2 on Dark City. I don´t know which version I saw but I believe I found it for sale for just about nothing so perhaps not the directors cut.

post #12317 of 16049

Dark City was a GREAT cult movie and suspiciously similar to the Matrix, though a much darker (no pun intended) tone. The director Alex Proyas is one of the most underrated directors out there, and his visual style is very dream like. He also directed The Crow, which is one of my top 5 movies of all time. He's directing Dante's Inferno next, which should be a nightmarish visual treat to say the least.

 

I love the fusion of film noir with sci-fi and I don't think there are enough films out there that do it properly. Gattaca was pretty well done I thought. And if they do it right, (fingers crossed) the upcoming Deus Ex movie could be utterly amazing as well. I doubt there will be anything that tops Blade Runner, though.

 

Speaking of Blade Runner, Ridley Scott's "Final Cut" is arguably the best version available. And finally I'd like to add that I believe Deckard is in fact a replicant and I'll go toe-to-toe with anyone that says otherwise.. tongue_smile.gif

post #12318 of 16049

Me personally, I feel like Dark City is the only Proyas movie where the substance matches the amazing style. I always enjoy the detail and visual extravagance of his films, but rarely feel the same about the plot and the characters. Also, I think you might be mistaken--I believe it was Paradise Lost he would be helming, not Dante's Divine Comedy. Unfortunately, I think the project has since been cancelled, due to budget problems, which is really quite a blow, nearly as maddening as del Toro's planned adaptation of Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness falling through--again due to budget concerns. >.< I don't think I've ever been as excited for a movie was I was for that one--I was like, literally a bit of an emotional mess after I learned it would not be happening lol.

post #12319 of 16049
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Me personally, I feel like Dark City is the only Proyas movie where the substance matches the amazing style. I always enjoy the detail and visual extravagance of his films, but rarely feel the same about the plot and the characters. Also, I think you might be mistaken--I believe it was Paradise Lost he would be helming, not Dante's Divine Comedy. Unfortunately, I think the project has since been cancelled, due to budget problems, which is really quite a blow, nearly as maddening as del Toro's planned adaptation of Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness falling through--again due to budget concerns. >.< I don't think I've ever been as excited for a movie was I was for that one--I was like, literally a bit of an emotional mess after I learned it would not be happening lol.


Right, Paradise Lost...my mistake! It's been canceled? I didn't hear that...that sucks. Oddly enough, that movie was supposed to star Bradley Cooper as Lucifer, who was also in talks to play Eric Draven in the supposed Crow remake, which too has (thankfully) been canceled. Guess Cooper can't catch a break lately.

 

I still think The Crow had just as much substance as style. The story may have been a simpler revenge tale, but the characters were dynamic (Brandon Lee was friggin' amazing) interesting and flawed. Soundtrack was great too. It's a damn shame Lee died during the making of that movie. He showed incredible potential as an actor in that role.

post #12320 of 16049

If Cooper is who I'm thinking of, he was very good in Silver Linings Playbook. Looking forward to seeing him in something new--not sure that I'd ever seen him in something before.

 

I do enjoy The Crow, I just can't take it seriously. Every time something dramatic happens I end up laughing, lol. It is a good movie though. I will say that I haven't seen Proyas's The Knowing yet, with Nick Cage. Pretty much everyone I ask about it says it was awful, but the few people who like it don't just like it--they are really passionate about it. So that one is on my radar. 

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Right, Paradise Lost...my mistake! It's been canceled? I didn't hear that...that sucks. Oddly enough, that movie was supposed to star Bradley Cooper as Lucifer, who was also in talks to play Eric Draven in the supposed Crow remake, which too has (thankfully) been canceled. Guess Cooper can't catch a break lately.

 

I still think The Crow had just as much substance as style. The story may have been a simpler revenge tale, but the characters were dynamic (Brandon Lee was friggin' amazing) interesting and flawed. Soundtrack was great too. It's a damn shame Lee died during the making of that movie. He showed incredible potential as an actor in that role.

post #12321 of 16049
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Skyfall 9 out of 10 stars. Best Bond I've seen. Got a little boring at the end. Javier Bardem as the bad guy was a great addition.

 

IF you can accept that it's superficial tripe and that it's ok to be entertained by tripe as long as you take it all with a grain of salt, its a great movie.

 

I really enjoyed it. My favorite moment was near the end when the villian's helicopter is attacking and The Animals' cover version of "Boom Boom" is blaring out of the helicopter.

 

"BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM! Gonna shoot ya right down!"

 

Just classic...

post #12322 of 16049

Superficial, yes, but so beautifully superficial. I still honestly cannot get over how great this film looked. I literally dream about Skyfall burning at night on the Scottish heathland. Gorgeous.

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Skyfall 9 out of 10 stars. Best Bond I've seen. Got a little boring at the end. Javier Bardem as the bad guy was a great addition.

 

IF you can accept that it's superficial tripe and that it's ok to be entertained by tripe as long as you take it all with a grain of salt, its a great movie.

post #12323 of 16049
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I really enjoyed it. My favorite moment was near the end when the villian's helicopter is attacking and The Animals' cover version of "Boom Boom" is blaring out of the helicopter.

 

"BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM! Gonna shoot ya right down!"

 

Just classic...

I loved when they hopped into the vintage Aston and the old-school theme music started playing as he drove away......biggrin.gif

post #12324 of 16049
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Lol Matrix is superficial like that. It doesn´t go deep at all. Prometheus is the same way.

 

 

X2 on Dark City. I don´t know which version I saw but I believe I found it for sale for just about nothing so perhaps not the directors cut.

 

I disagree about both movies, and I am definitely not alone about the deeper meanings of The Matrix:

https://www.google.com/search?q=matrix+philosophy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-beta

 

I really liked Dark City (9/10), but I thought it had more in common with Total Recall (the newest version that is more of an adaptation of the original story by Philip K. Dick, not the Schwarzenegger cheesefest) than with The Matrix. Perhaps I will give it a re-watch soon.


Edited by grokit - 1/9/13 at 3:31pm
post #12325 of 16049
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If Cooper is who I'm thinking of, he was very good in Silver Linings Playbook. Looking forward to seeing him in something new--not sure that I'd ever seen him in something before.

I do enjoy The Crow, I just can't take it seriously. Every time something dramatic happens I end up laughing, lol. It is a good movie though. I will say that I haven't seen Proyas's The Knowing yet, with Nick Cage. Pretty much everyone I ask about it says it was awful, but the few people who like it don't just like it--they are really passionate about it. So that one is on my radar. 

Bradley Cooper was also in The Hangover movies and The A Team movie. That's all I've seen him in. I heard Limitless was good too.

I thought Knowing was great up until the completely retarded ending.
post #12326 of 16049

Hobbit.

 

I though it was good.  They took their time, characters, story.  Graphical rendering was good.  Spectacular views.  Sound was good.

 

 

 

Loper,

 

Also good.  Engaged the brain a bit.  Well filmed.  Held the attention.

 

 

 

Taken 2.

 

Also good.  Obvious plot vehicles but fast paced, held the attention and seemed reasonably possible.  The action scenes are spoiled a bit by the 'jump cut' technique but I guess the main actor is not young or fit or flexible or expert enough to sustain the moves in real time.

 

 

 

Bond,

 

Didn't really enjoy this one all that much due to the nonsense all the way through spoiling it for me.


Edited by Ian S - 1/9/13 at 7:01pm
post #12327 of 16049

Ah, never have seen The Hangovers (I did try one of them once but didn't really find it to my liking, so I gave up after about a half hour), nor the A-Team. Take it he's sort of a 'new' actor then. Anyways, I did really like him. 

 

And completely retarded ending? What sort of retarded are we talking, here? Like.... A.I. retarded?

post #12328 of 16049


Seven Psychopaths (2012) 6.8/10

Comedy and crime film characters playing along in a surreal world.
Stretched out in some parts.
Found the soundtrack more interesting,classic/hipster/music score,pretty good.
One instrumental song title - All Gray and Shiit,guess I still laugh about dumb things...
Linda Ronstadt is one of my favorite female vocalists,P.P.Arnold's cover of Cat Stevens song,one of the best...
Code:
01. Angel of Death – Hank Williams
02. The First Cut Is The Deepest – P.P. Arnold
03. The Quaker – Carter Burwell
04. Berlioz: Strophes ‘Premiers Transports Que Nui N’oblie…’ [Roméo Et Juliette, Op 17 - Version With Original Parts. - Part 1] 
– The Monteverdi Choir And Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique with Catherine Robbin, Jean-Paul Fouchécourt & John Eliot Gardiner
05. Zachariah – Carter Burwell
06. Angela Surf City – The Walkmen
07. Billy’s Diary – Carter Burwell
08. Dirty Dishes – Deer Tick
09. My Lai – Carter Burwell
10. Country Dumb – Josh T. Pearson
11. Der Monde: Ach, Da Hängt Ja Der Mond! (Klein Kind/Chor) – Teresa Holloway, Philharmonia 
Chorus/Philharmonia Orchestra/Wolfgang Sawallisch
12. All Gray and **** – Carter Burwell
13. This Movie Ends My Way – Carter Burwell
14. Stranded – The Walkmen
15. Billy’s Ending – Carter Burwell
16. It Might – Carter Burwell
17. Seven Psychopaths – Carter Burwell
18. Different Drum – The Stone Poneys feat. Linda Ronstadt
19. Zach’s Back – Carter Burwell

Edited by 5aces - 1/9/13 at 9:19pm
post #12329 of 16049
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Ah, never have seen The Hangovers (I did try one of them once but didn't really find it to my liking, so I gave up after about a half hour), nor the A-Team. Take it he's sort of a 'new' actor then. Anyways, I did really like him. 

 

And completely retarded ending? What sort of retarded are we talking, here? Like.... A.I. retarded?


It's every bit as bad as the ending to A.I.

 

Still a good movie up until then. And Nic Cage is pretty solid in it.


Edited by dxanex - 1/9/13 at 11:17pm
post #12330 of 16049

Alrighty, I'll be sure to check it out at some point. I do quite like Cage--I know he gets a lot of hate, and yeah, he is in a lot of pretty bad stuff. But I still think he's very underrated as an actor--even in his post-Adaptation career. Just check out Herzog's Bad Lieutenant, for proof!

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It's every bit as bad as the ending to A.I.

 

Still a good movie up until then. And Nic Cage is pretty solid in it.

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