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UE-11 pics and initial impressions

post #1 of 60
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The other UE-11 thread is starting to get long so I thought I'd post my own with some thoughts and pics.







Out of the box the fit was perfect! Nice going audiologist and UE for nailing it first time around. I have to say after reading some of the issues headfiers are having I was nervous. And yes they totally nailed my color request!

I'm getting used to the comfort/fit as they do feel different from my ES2's, which have the softer tips. The UE's feel like they are lighter yet very solid. My ears are adjusting to the feel and are a tad irritated but nothing worth expanding on. I'm going to swap the cable for a thin one as this one bothers the top of my ears a bit.

On to the sound! I'd like to preface with the fact that I have about 4-5 hours on these right now so my impressions are very initial. Most listening so far as been done with my iPod and Lisa III XP, although I am listening directly out of my PC right now just for some contrast.

The UE-11's really bring it! The first thing I noticed about them as many here have said is the fullness of their sound. They really have weight in the sound and the music does not feel as if it is being squeezed through an IEM as it often can. Much more of a full sized can feel and better in many respects. I think the thing that I am finding myself the most impressed with is the combination of accuracy and musicality. Many headphones to my ears usually end up having one or the other. Take the PS-1 for instance; a very fun and musical headphone but I would not call it accurate in a neutral sense. The UE-11's seemed to have nailed the hybrid of accuracy and musicality. What I mean is that there is not enough color in the sound to call them musical and engaging at the cost of accuracy and neutrality. They present the music the way I imagine it was in the studio or at the show. Cymbals splash and you can really hear the decay bleed off into the background, strings and brass sound lively and percussion is just amazing. Supper tight bass response with plenty of impact and this goes for the rest of the percussion family as well. Reminds me of my old SP Slam in a sense because percussion is so hard to get right and that was one thing that stood out to me about that amp. Same thing here, the UE-11's really keep the tight snap and true sound of percussion instruments you here if someone was playing unamped in front of you. The level of detail is unlike any headphone I've owned, even listening unamped right now I am very impressed with how much I am hearing and at how little effort I have to exert to pick out the different things going on in the music. The top end is very crisp with lots of sparkle and absolutely zero sibilance.

The midrange and or vocal department I'm still deciding about. I think the case is the same here in that the UE11's present it the way it is supposed to be. If the vocals are forward that's how you hear them if they are a bit distant same case. I like my vocals to be very forward like in the chair next to me. This is the main reason I love the PS-1 so much and what drove me towards the ES2. I may end up picking up a Hornet to use with these since it is known for a somewhat forward vocal presentation. Anyways, the vocals are silky smooth and again, here the exceptional clarity is nothing if not impressive. Mids overall are lush and full sounding... maybe even a little warm but far from dark. Another thing I am noticing is how great they sound with all music. All the headphones I've owned seem to shine brighter in certain areas but these seem to be very consistent and so far do not appear to favor gener's or instruments which is a very refreshing trait IMO.

This all probably sounds somewhat random but that's how it is right now as I form my opinions about these. The PS-1 is still my favorite headphone but if I had to own only one pair right now I'd probably chose these. Based on what I have heard so far I would say these were a worthy purchase and a worthy upgrade from the ES2. I don't see myself reaching much for the D5000 or ES2 much in the future. I may even sell the Lisa and Denon's... yes I see myself being very happy with the UE11's. If I had to sum it up in a word I'd say "goosebumps" and that says a lot since the only other headphone that can claim goosebump credit is my beloved PS-1.

I'll try to add to or modify this after I have had these for a month or two and have had some time to listen to them with a couple different amps.
post #2 of 60
Thanks for sharing your impressions. Great job. We are spot on in alignment on what we hear. The UE11's are an IEM that continues to impress me every day. By the way, the color combo came out looking killer. Love it.
post #3 of 60
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Originally Posted by digihead View Post
Thanks for sharing your impressions. Great job. We are spot on in alignment on what we hear. The UE11's are an IEM that continues to impress me every day. By the way, the color combo came out looking killer. Love it.
Thanks man! I'm very happy with them and am looking forward to spending more time with different amps and getting to know their sound. They certainly are not as picky as the ES2's I'm noticing
post #4 of 60
Thank you for the impressions. I also find them to be an extremely resolving and completely enjoyable headphone. So much so that I hate to be considering the Ray Samuels Apache when my heart was set on his B52.....I know I know....pick my "poison"

What is getting me that you are thinking of selling your Lisa. I thought that would be a great match for the UE-11s?
post #5 of 60
Gorgeous!
post #6 of 60
Man you have the Full sizers I lst after, and the IEMs I lust after....and man, those are sexy....
post #7 of 60
Nice choice in colour, cool to stare at for a few minutes or so. I'm jealous, I wish I was old enough for customs .
post #8 of 60
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Originally Posted by shaizada View Post
Thank you for the impressions. I also find them to be an extremely resolving and completely enjoyable headphone. So much so that I hate to be considering the Ray Samuels Apache when my heart was set on his B52.....I know I know....pick my "poison"

What is getting me that you are thinking of selling your Lisa. I thought that would be a great match for the UE-11s?
Oh they are... the Lisa is an exceptional amp but the ES2's needed more help than these do and I would like to do a side by side to see which synergy I like better with the UE-11's. It will no doubt be a trade off of amp traits; the Lisa's imaging, space between notes and bass knob vs. the Hornet's forward vocal presentation. The other qualities will be a wash or close to.
post #9 of 60
Good work, and i'm looking forward their impressions on the Hornet.
post #10 of 60
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Originally Posted by wakeride74 View Post
.........The midrange and or vocal department I'm still deciding about. I think the case is the same here in that the UE11's present it the way it is supposed to be. If the vocals are forward that's how you hear them if they are a bit distant same case. I like my vocals to be very forward like in the chair next to me. This is the main reason I love the PS-1 so much and what drove me towards the ES2. .......
I'll try to add to or modify this after I have had these for a month or two and have had some time to listen to them with a couple different amps.
I have definitely noticed that about the vocals as well. I have even started listening to different recordings of the same song (re-mastered, re-mixed, different Greatest Hits collections) and you can definitely hear the difference in the way the versions were mixed and I am starting to develop a preference for one version over the other as a result. The more I hear through the UE-11's the more I am beginning to appreciate the skills that go into remastering an established piece of music...
post #11 of 60
You spat that chewing gum out too quickly!

Seriously, I am jealous. With the Westone 3s gone into protracted hibernation, I'm thinking of picking up that Triple-Fi 10 Pros which are available here in Shanghai. Reading your review, I'm wondering if I shouldn't just bite the big bullet and have my ears molded next time I'm in HK.

By then the new iBasso D1 will be available in HK too: I'm thinking the H140+D1+UE11s would be a killer combo.

>>>>radical colours, dude!
post #12 of 60
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Originally Posted by wakeride74 View Post
Oh they are... the Lisa is an exceptional amp but the ES2's needed more help than these do and I would like to do a side by side to see which synergy I like better with the UE-11's. It will no doubt be a trade off of amp traits; the Lisa's imaging, space between notes and bass knob vs. the Hornet's forward vocal presentation. The other qualities will be a wash or close to.
Once again, right on the money my friend. To me, the Lisa seems to overall present the music a bit further back than the Hornet does. In addition, the Hornet pushes the vocals a bit further forward and seems to add somewhat of a golden glow to the sound as well. You give up a bit of the blackness and separation of the Lisa as well as a bit of the clean, clear type of sound from the Lisa. The Hornet's sound traits listed above for me are very addicting however when paired with the UE11. The bass can be a bit less controlled with the Hornet and definitely has more presence than with the Lisa as well. At this juncture, it is more of a give and take scenario.

In listening further, I am now seriously considering the Predator as a match for the UE11. Wakeride - based on the meet impressions I read and reading your sound preferences of 'in the seat next to you' type vocals and presentation, you might want to look at the Preadtor vs. the Pico as I believe the Pico is said to have a more spacious, refined, laid back type of sound a la LisaIII.

Unfortunately, I also struggle with the fact that I think the UE11 could scale really well given the right amp. The struggle is that I think that amp might very well be the Apache...and my wallet just can't take the hit. Anybody have the chance to hear the UE11/Apache combo and care to comment?
post #13 of 60
Interesting interesting...thanks for the impressions, glad to see some word from someone I actually know xD

I am keeping my interest packed away until Westones finally step out with their stuff, and I am hoping you will be able to provide some back to back impressions between these customs ^.^
post #14 of 60
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digihead - Thanks for the comments man... you and I are usually on the same page which is one of the reasons I valued your opinion on the 11's so much.
I thought about your point on the Predator but to be honest I am mainly buying the Pico for the DAC, which I found to be very impressive. I did plug into the amp section with my ES2, ALO, iPod but only listened for a couple minutes and it didn't really jump out at me but that was after hearing the DAC so take it FWIW. I believe Ray said that the Predator will have a sound more like the SR-71. Given the curve ball the UE-11's threw at me I may make some more changes to my rig plans but my mind is all over the place right now.

MaloS - I can tell you (based on memory) some of the difference between the UE-11 and Westone 3 (universal fit).

The Westone 3 has a larger soundstage, vocals sound about at the same distance but I think the 3 keeps them at that distance more consistently where the UE-11 will present them more true to the original recording which is one of the reasons I am having a hard time getting my head around the mid range characteristics as they change with the music. The UE-11's have stronger bass that extends to insane depths and with the Lisa remains tight and controlled but still may be a but much for the folks that think Etys have enough bass. The UE-11's and Westone 3's are about on par with the darkness between notes but the 11's do a better job of bringing background to the foreground and are superior in the overall clarity and detail. Some may even find the 3's somewhat dark in comparison, although I do not. Top end estension is fairly close but the 11's have much better decay and a much faster attack on each note. Of the universal fits I've heard I still think the 3's sound the most like a full sized can of any IEM I have heard but the UE-11 is just insane. I was even A/B'g them to my PS-1's last night and was very impressed at how well they compared. They really are something worth owning if you spend much time with a portable rig. I listen to my portable rig at work about 5 hours a day 5 days a week so that is where I am investing right now.

I'll really have to hear them side by side to offer more than that but from memory that is what I hear.
post #15 of 60
Well, you are still comparing custom to universal, and where I am getting curious is what Westone 3 custom will sound on comparison to UE11. If the soundstage of a universal is larger already, we could be looking at an even better performance with the custom.
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