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post #196 of 295
after 200 hrs burn in , i dont find my D5000 has any problem ..
yes, the bass is still strong, but not as heavy as the beginning.

ok , i am a happy D5000 owner
post #197 of 295
Thread Starter 
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This weekend I am going to get some of that dynamat from circuit city and dampen my headphones markl style.
Philimon, I recommend stopping after you put in the initial Dynamat mod, before you add the extra little bits that I ended up using. Test them with the initial level of Dynamat and see if that's enough for you. It's hard to undo and remove extra Dynamt if you think it went too far.

Good luck, and please report back good, bad or indifferent. Cheers.
post #198 of 295
Thanks for the looking out. I plan to take pics and post them as well with my thoughts.
post #199 of 295
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Originally Posted by Fing View Post
I tried the dynamat, fibreloft and earpad mods. I think I enjoyed it most with just the dynamat mod, though bass was just a little too present, still.

Adding foam underearpads seems to take away some of the immediacy from the sound.

I think the dynamat does a good job of reducing resonances in the earcup and in the plastics around the driver. The fibreloft almost becomes unnessary.

Good being able to tweak the headphone to your own preferences - I wonder what it would have been like prior to the dynamat, as it was one of the first things I put on and now it seems I'm pretty much stuck with it - it's very difficult to remove.
Hi Fing,as I can read on your signature, you have the Yamamoto... what your opinion about the Denon/Yamamoto setup? May be not many headfiers have this combo at the moment...

Best!
Nik
post #200 of 295
Thread Starter 
*sigh*

The deed is done. I've put my beloved R10s up for sale on ebay. I admit to feeling a little queasy doing it, but the fact remains, I prefer the mod-ed Denons to them.

Time for someone else to have some time with the King.

Sony MDR-R10 The King of Headphones. World's BEST R10 - (eBay item 120191098637 end time Dec-06-07 16:53:21 PST)
post #201 of 295
Good for you! Someone will be happy
post #202 of 295
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Philimon, I recommend stopping after you put in the initial Dynamat mod, before you add the extra little bits that I ended up using. Test them with the initial level of Dynamat and see if that's enough for you. It's hard to undo and remove extra Dynamt if you think it went too far.

Good luck, and please report back good, bad or indifferent. Cheers.
My girlfriend wants to buy me an amp for christmas and one that is under $200 firm (we are still poor students at the moment and I will not be upgrading this initial audio equipment investment for atleast another year or two). Right now I am looking at reviews of amps on head-fi and the little dot mkIII seems to get a lot of praise and is right at the price point. But I am hoping for something portable that is of satisfactory sound quality. There is the new minibox-e+ (head-direct.com) and the new little dot mkI which are both portable and around $120. I have read only positive reviews for the minibox, but havent found anything for the little dot mkI. It could be a lot easier checking for impressions, but the search function on head-fi is not working properly.
I am thinking I should wait for my amp before trial/error with the dynamat, because as you said it is difficult to remove. A potential hassle dissolved by simply waiting a month.
Also my girlfriend thinks she can do better than my current setup with the earpads. She wants to fabricate something to add to the earpads instead of simply stuffing material behind the plastic ring. She would also like to remove the microfiber cloth in the middle and reapply it, after she is done... doing whatever. If she screws up and the original microfiber cloth is unusable, is there some other cheap and readily available material that can be used to replace it? Would using something like a very thin, stretched, piece of pantyhose do the trick? Or is that not good enough?
Please reply with any suggestions.
post #203 of 295
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Gotta be very very sparing with the Fiberloft. I suggest a very thin layer; pull it apart and spread it so it isn't so dense. Dig a bit out in the middle where the butt of the driver goes. At most, before closing it back up, thin, pulled apart Fiberloft should stick out no more than 1/4" over the lip of the cup. Too much will damp the sound too much. When you rea-attach the ear cup to the headphone assembly, the Fiberloft should not cause any pressure that pushed the cup out so you have to clamp it down to get it to stay. It should fit just easily as if there was no Fiberloft at all.
What frequencies is the Fibreloft supposed to attenuate? For me adding any fibreloft causes too much bass recession. The dynamat is fine for tightening bass for me at the volumes I listen to - which is usually quite quiet.

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Here's another tip I highly recommend. Put no padding under the forward part of the pad. Only put padding on the rear side of the pad, tapering it down as is comes closer to the front, as seen here:



Why? This does a few positive things:

1. Angles the driver like the R10 (and some AudioTechnicas), further closing the gap in the middle of the image. You now have no double image of the singer left and right, they converge into a single, solid image in the middle. Singer also seems to take a step forward in the mix (and doesn't get quite as lost in the mix), closer in perspective to what the R10 delivers.

2. Preserves more of the upper midrange and highs, which are slightly recessed on the D5000.

This may be harder for folks that have used layers of foam, but I highly recommend it.
I tried putting foam in just at the back of the earpad, just in the front and more in the back and less in the front. In all cases, I prefer the sound without any padding in the earpads at all. Again, this is possibly a volume thing.

Another tweak I tried from looking at the R10 is putting some foam between the earcup and the frame which the earpads attach to. Again, abandoned due to too much attenuation of the bass.

I am actually really enjoying these cans now that they've had a bit of time to burn in. The treble which I found unbearably loud in comparison to the rest of the frequency range has calmed down a lot. It is still a little too shouty for my tastes.

The sound has become a little less dry and a little more liquid. If it continues in this direction, I will say that they certainly are doing a lot of things right.
Nice bass quantity though it could be more detailed and textured. Midrange, continues to be a little recessed and is not 'magical'. Treble a little too present.

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Originally Posted by Nik View Post
Hi Fing,as I can read on your signature, you have the Yamamoto... what your opinion about the Denon/Yamamoto setup? May be not many headfiers have this combo at the moment...

Best!
Nik
The Denon mates with the Yamamoto very well and the music it produces is very enjoyable. I'm trialling some triodes in my source that emphasise midrange at the moment and I do like it a lot - nice soundstage, lush mids though not as powerful a bass as my Extreme Platinum.
post #204 of 295
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*sigh*

The deed is done. I've put my beloved R10s up for sale on ebay. I admit to feeling a little queasy doing it, but the fact remains, I prefer the mod-ed Denons to them.

Time for someone else to have some time with the King.

Sony MDR-R10 The King of Headphones. World's BEST R10 - (eBay item 120191098637 end time Dec-06-07 16:53:21 PST)
D5000s have just become so much more valuable
post #205 of 295
I have been a little busy and havent been able to get started with putting in the dynamat until today. I am working on it right now and had to jump on the forum to see where on the driver area I should be adding this stuff. The adhesive on the dynamat is quite serious, so I dont want to mess up. I am taking photos to help fill in where markl didnt get any shots. Maybe you can use them markl, if you decide to recreate a new markl mod thread with clearer instructions.
post #206 of 295
Also, I am getting the minibox-e+ for christmas as well as a ton of music so I am pretty excited. All I need to do is by a line-out dock for my ipods, especially since the headphone jack is messed up on my 80gig. I think I am going to re-rip all my CD's to 320kb vbr.
post #207 of 295
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Also, I am getting the minibox-e+ for christmas as well as a ton of music so I am pretty excited. All I need to do is by a line-out dock for my ipods, especially since the headphone jack is messed up on my 80gig. I think I am going to re-rip all my CD's to 320kb vbr.
barqy can make you a great LOD with silk insulated silver for a good price. You might want to PM him. I like mine. He also made me a 3.5 - 3.5mm interconnect in silk silver, and a 3.5mm to locking RCA plug interconnect in silver wrapped copper. Excellent sound enhancing workmanship.
post #208 of 295
Another great LOD is the one from RAL. Brad makes great products.
post #209 of 295
Thread Starter 
I've just spent another 5 hours with my mod-ed D5000. It just confirms for me how much better it is than the R10 (which I sold and packed up and shipped out). OK, the R10 has a few tricks up its sleeve that no other headphone can touch, but OTOH, it's got some fatal flaws that were never apparent to me until I heard another phone that didn't have them.

There's a good chance I'm going to order yet another D5000 with a different re-cable and modify it again with my mods. This will not happen until after the Holidays.

I need to know I've totally maxed out the D5000 in terms of cables, and I HATE silver, so my choices are limited.

Anyway, stay tuned, eventually I will post a final thread with final mods. Cheers.
post #210 of 295
I did it.
Here are the pics - 2 pages. Go ahead and use any.
I wont be back on until Thursday afternoon, which is when we are to have our internet connection at home fixed. Though I might just come back to school to use the internet to check head-fi because one of the members is giving away some headphones tomorrow and I would like to find out if I won. I did not see the skylab amp giveaway until it was too late! Oh well.
And yes I like the outcome sounds fine. I am keeping the earpads at half filled like markl described. I agree that it is the best.
BTW, dynamat costs around $25 at either circuit city or best buy. I have most of it left and if it were cheap to send to someone I would...

Seeya!



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