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post #16 of 31
8/25/08 at 11:30am
Incase anyone's interested, DA-131 is now updated to DA-131.1 with a few very interesting features.

*UPDATED* KECES DA-131.1 SPDIF DAC! (RMAA in second post)
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post #17 of 31
8/25/08 at 7:16pm
Ebay says 345$ + shipping. It's got more expensive. No I need to save up even longer.
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post #18 of 31
8/25/08 at 8:05pm
Aren't the cheaper options still available? Seems unfair for those who don't need volt switching and don't want to spend so much on an IEC connector!
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post #19 of 31
8/25/08 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by apatN View Post
Ebay says 345$ + shipping. It's got more expensive. No I need to save up even longer.
Outside of ebay, it is only $330 instead of $345. Ebay's price will always be slightly higher due to the cost differences of ebay sale.

As for the elevated price, consider that the upgraded original DA-131 is $320 (LME49710 upgrade), the price of DA-131.1 had only increased by $10 USD as it now have LME49710 built-in.


Thanks.

David
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post #20 of 31
8/25/08 at 9:46pm
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Aren't the cheaper options still available? Seems unfair for those who don't need volt switching and don't want to spend so much on an IEC connector!
Well, there are still a few units of DA-131 in stock, in case someone wants the original. The price is just the same as before.

However, the quantity is not only limited, the saving is also limited due to the fact that the price difference of the upgraded DA-131 and the DA-131.1 (already have the upgrade OP as default configuration) is only $10.


Having the voltage switch is an inevitable change, as many of our customers are using 200~240 (our default setting is 100~125V), we had to open up each one and change the voltage and/or upgrade the LME49710 OP amp. That is why this update was implemented.


David
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post #21 of 31
8/26/08 at 5:08am
Ha. So this is more convenient for you and we have to pay the price.. Nah, just kidding. Where can you get them for 330$?
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post #22 of 31
8/26/08 at 7:08am
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Ha. So this is more convenient for you and we have to pay the price.. Nah, just kidding. Where can you get them for 330$?
You can get it by PM me or through audiogon.

As for paying the prices, well, there's a surprise coming up in a few hours for those who might be buying their DA-131.1 soon.
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post #23 of 31
8/26/08 at 8:23am
Well, here's the surprise!

*SPECIAL* 50% or better chance to get FREE IEGO upgrade on KECES DA-131.1

I personally sponsored the IeGO upgrade myself, I feel that there are a lot of people who still have not discovered how important a good IEC socket is. I have a few customers who do know the importance, and they've been coming back and can't get enough of the silver AG-R301 sockets.


Have fun.
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post #24 of 31
8/26/08 at 11:52am
You'll probably need a very good rig to start with to hear a difference, right? I think 90$ for a IEC socket is a bit too much. But then again, I'm allready stretching my budget with the Keces DA-131..
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post #25 of 31
8/26/08 at 12:21pm
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You'll probably need a very good rig to start with to hear a difference, right? I think 90$ for a IEC socket is a bit too much. But then again, I'm allready stretching my budget with the Keces DA-131..
Well, I think most people would think like you do, that is why I put them up for the draw. If there's only TWO participants, then they will ALL get silver IECs, if there are five, then all of them will be getting the upgraded sockets. The 50% chance is the lowest chance, and the chance won't be any less than that.

Since the offer will not cost buyer a thing, those who won the upgraded socket can then compare what they hear with the reviews on the net, and hopefully post a few words on what they think of the upgrade.


As for hearing the difference, IMHO you don't need a supreme system to hear it. As is, a fair quality headphone system will easily hear the difference, as headphone system are far more sensitive than speaker systems.



Oh, I forgot mention that I'm not sure if this offer will be repeated again after this. If there isn't much demand, then it might not be repeated. If the demand is good, it may be repeated from time to time.
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post #26 of 31
8/26/08 at 12:30pm
If people are getting the upgraded socket they still won't hear the difference since they can't compare.

I really like your deal, but people recommended me getting a tube amp first. But I'm still not sure. The digital sound of the X-FI is really bothering me. A DAC would be a nice upgrade, but it has been said that tubes make everything a bit warmer..
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post #27 of 31
8/26/08 at 9:38pm
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If people are getting the upgraded socket they still won't hear the difference since they can't compare.

I really like your deal, but people recommended me getting a tube amp first. But I'm still not sure. The digital sound of the X-FI is really bothering me. A DAC would be a nice upgrade, but it has been said that tubes make everything a bit warmer..
Well, it would be like a choice between smoothing the jagged edge or getting something that never had the jagged edge at all.

IMHO, if X-Fi is really bothering you, then a proper DAC would be a better choice. As that there is still limit on what a tube amp can do. But anyways, the choice is yours, and my suggestion is that always keep things within budget, or leave it for later when you can do it within budget.
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post #28 of 31
8/27/08 at 8:32am
That's the point. A DAC will lift the digital sound but most people seem to agree getting a tube amp would be a better choice. DT880s love tubes, so it seems and I can see why. The DT880s are treble-oriented IMO. But combining this with the digital sounding X-FI.. Meh.
It's a tough choice especially since I can't upgrade for quite some time whether I get a DAC or an amp.

BTW, are there any people in your contest already?
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post #29 of 31
8/27/08 at 9:09am
I wonder what version is your DT-880? I used to have one that is one version older than the current (the side grill is a flat piece of aluminum with lots of tiny holes, not the curved like the current version), and I found by accident that HD-650 sounded like a DT-880 without the sharp highs (well, maybe its just me...).

So far there are no one in the contest yet, I guess the words takes a bit of time to spread. :P
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post #30 of 31
8/27/08 at 12:01pm
Yes, I have the same. It's the '03 version. However, I can't believe your Beyer sounded like a HD-650 so it must be you.
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