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post #16 of 55
during my long affair with the K340s I can tell you that the bass heavy variety fits your description to the T!
post #17 of 55
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Balanced HD 600 or HD 650.

EDIT: And a balanced amp, of course.
Question for you, sir. A balanced amp is certainly out of my league right now, but since I have the Opera on the way, and it has balanced ground, do you think that would be as close to a true balanced setup as I can get, and if so would the HD6X0 be a good match for the Opera?
post #18 of 55
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If it weren't for the "in production" part, the Stax SR-Sigma would be a perfect contender for this position. Huge soundstage and excellent bass indeed.

Bass is a bit better overall than the K1000 (once you average out the pros and cons), soundstage is larger, and the price is much lower. K1000 has much better imaging and more "accurate" bass, but it is limited in quantity.
Thank you, Mr. Fitz. I would love to listen to some Stax, as I have never heard them. I heard a few pairs of electrostatic headphones years ago, I want to say they were Martin Logan (even though they don't make headphones currently). But I could be wrong.

How much would a used pair of SR-Sigma cost, and I imagine I would need the electrostatic amp to go with it?

Because of these cost factors, I'm really looking more for a dynamic headphone. I love the D5000, I just want another good headphone in my collection to compliment them.

Anyone have any word on when the HD800 is due for release? Sometime around Christmas? And I wonder if there will be any deals on them, i.e. you can get the HD650 on Amazon for around $350 even though they actually list for almost double that amount.
post #19 of 55
Have you considered Stax SR-404? In production, will cost you as much as other contenders, has great sound-stage, and lovely bass.
post #20 of 55
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You know anyplace I could go listen to them around here? I forgot to mention, comfort is an important factor as well. I'm not sure how comfortable Stax are, so I just thought I'd mention that. Thanks!
post #21 of 55
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You know anyplace I could go listen to them around here? I forgot to mention, comfort is an important factor as well. I'm not sure how comfortable Stax are, so I just thought I'd mention that. Thanks!
Stax are comfortable. End of story.

Check Stax dealer list, I think there was one in LA. If not, scout for head-fi members in the area, I'll be damned if noone has got anything.
post #22 of 55
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Bass is a bit better overall than the K1000 (once you average out the pros and cons), soundstage is larger, and the price is much lower.
The Sigma has a larger soundstage than the K1000? Did I read that right?
post #23 of 55
I wouldnt be looking at the JVC DX1000, form my time with it, it does not do what you want from sound.

I would be looking at K1000s. an If my money were strapped, then I'd be loooking at Sigma Pros. Alternatively, looking at lambdas with a view to paronaromic mount them.
post #24 of 55
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The Sigma has a larger soundstage than the K1000? Did I read that right?
Yes. I think it is probably due to the fact that the electrostatic drivers produce sound over a larger area (especially vertically, giving it more "height"), and from some reverb in the huge enclosures (increasing distance and depth).

Edit: Also forgot to mention that the darker sound of the Sigmas probably contributes to it as well.
post #25 of 55
how about O2.

you are going to need to buy an amp, too
post #26 of 55
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Thank you, Mr. Fitz. I would love to listen to some Stax, as I have never heard them. I heard a few pairs of electrostatic headphones years ago, I want to say they were Martin Logan (even though they don't make headphones currently). But I could be wrong.

How much would a used pair of SR-Sigma cost, and I imagine I would need the electrostatic amp to go with it?
Vintage Stax prices are very unstable, so based on my observations anywhere from around $250 to $500, with a transformer box. The transformer box would hook up to a regular speaker amp, unless you wanted to buy a full electrostatic amp.
post #27 of 55
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Question for you, sir. A balanced amp is certainly out of my league right now, but since I have the Opera on the way, and it has balanced ground, do you think that would be as close to a true balanced setup as I can get, and if so would the HD6X0 be a good match for the Opera?
I don't know enough about the Opera to say whether or not it is a good match for the HD 650, but the technology at least sounds interesting. I don't think a balanced amp is a must for the 650; I've just found that balanced drive seems to extend the soundstage out a bit horizontally.

EDIT: also adding my agreement that Stax phones are comfortable.
post #28 of 55
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What were you going to say? Oh, about your Sony earspeaker? Yeah, let me know when you get them.

Also, maybe when my Opera gets here (should be any day now) it will improve my sound so much and do everything that I am looking for. But I'd still like to know of other suggestions if you guys have any. What do you think of the Beyers? How's the soundstage on them? Which one is better, the DT880 or DT990? On Amazon, the DT990 was cheaper, but it was an older 2004 model. I'm not too familiar with Beyers. And I'm waiting for the Sennheiser HD800 comes out to listen to that one as well. I'm not a big fan of open cans, but if the right one came along and "wowed" me, I'd certainly buy it.

Just keep in mind, I like my bass to sound and feel like it's real. When you go to a live performance, you not only hear the bass but you feel it, too. The Denon's do that for me. But I'm not talking about a techno club where the bass is so ridiculously powerful you think you're going to have a heart attack. That is nor enjoyable, nor accurate. And I actually had to leave a place like that once because it felt like my chest was going to cave in. It was really painful. I don't understand how kids enjoy that. Maybe when they need to get a heart transplant, they'll realize the damage such heavy bass can actually do to your internal organs.
Neither the 990 or 880 have bass like you're looking for. The sound rediculously flat and dry IMO. The DT770 has the bass you're after. Darth Beyers have all the qualities you're looking for. But you have to buy some 770's and mail them off to get Darthed....worth every penny.
post #29 of 55
What about the Stax SR-007, or the cheaper SR-404?
They both have great soundstage and tight well controlled bass. Very comfortable on the head as well.

At least give them a try.
post #30 of 55
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Neither the 990 or 880 have bass like you're looking for. The sound rediculously flat and dry IMO. The DT770 has the bass you're after. Darth Beyers have all the qualities you're looking for. But you have to buy some 770's and mail them off to get Darthed....worth every penny.
Or just buy direct from Larry's deal 18..... easiest, and he does a good price on the DT770s.
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