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Originally Posted by Jon118 
As for the clickwheel, I'll definitely dispute you over it being better. To me the clickwheel flat out sucks for scrolling through a lot. My friend doesn't even have half the collection I do, but still, scrolling through what he did have on his Nano was quite a chore. I can just hold a button on my Zune, there is no way to get easier than pushing a button unless you have a UI that is controlled by your mind. The Zune easily has the better method for scrolling, but then again, I guess some might prefer the clickwheel, and that's fine.
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You're quite right, all u do in the zune is press down and away u go. its alot easier that way. thats until my music library started to build especially with the new 80gb harddrive. the thing is, now i press until i find...say kanye west. what happens now is i let go of the button once k flashes up, then i need quite alot more clicks to go up and find the name 'kanye'. As always, i wish there were both features in one device. the zune style scroll down using a button and the click wheel for more detailed searching.

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Originally Posted by Luckypictures
Are you saying that it's like the ipod because it's slimmer/ There's been a resemblance since Zune1, but there's going to be a resemblance with any player that's rectangular and white or black. Why? Because people associate that with iPod.
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well it was my first reaction when i saw the pictures of the zune 2. it looked like an ipod without the clickwheel. after some thought maybe that was a positive response since the zune 80 looks like what the ipod classic should have been. something of a bridge from the older button based interface to the newer touch screen dominating designs. the classic's name and split screen ui is a pretty amusing mess which is rare from apple but it looks like if microsoft can market the thing well it looks like it might be competent.
even as I love my zune i've always been skeptical of the odds for the zune brand's success. i bought the zune to hold out from the mediocre 5g ipod but the 6g seems even more of a mess unheard of from an ipod. and having heard that microsoft will continue support the old zunes i sense that the balance is slightly tipping against the ipod for the first time. only slightly though. if microsoft can really exploit the zune's superior sq, then they should be a seriously threat to the ipod brand. talk of sq from the streets seem to get stronger gradually. ipod veterans now know the ipod isn't the best sounding dap out there.