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KECES PCM2702 USB DAC

post #1 of 172
9/30/07 at 10:06am
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Looks like another inexpensive but well built DAC. Specs and RMAA Test are posted here

anyone knows how to read these graphs please comment
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post #2 of 172
9/30/07 at 10:18am
I know it's only aesthetic, but I'd rather not have a website url etched into the acrylic!

Wow, only $175USD plus shipping.
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post #3 of 172
9/30/07 at 11:50am
It sure looks interesting. I wonder who will be the first one to get one.
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post #4 of 172
9/30/07 at 11:41pm
I'd give it a bash if I had need for a low-end USB DAC... but I don't!
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post #5 of 172
10/1/07 at 6:36am
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I think I'll be ordering one in few weeks
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post #6 of 172
10/1/07 at 7:39am
It looks nice, but isn't the PCM2702 a low end chip these days.

Surely for this much trouble they could build a mid range DAC and charge a few bucks more.

Oh. and I agree about the URL on the case - ugly.
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post #7 of 172
10/1/07 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by fordgtlover View Post
It looks nice, but isn't the PCM2702 a low end chip these days.

Surely for this much trouble they could build a mid range DAC and charge a few bucks more.

Oh. and I agree about the URL on the case - ugly.
You can find the same chip in Cantate but I've read that the dac chip itself isn't the the most important factor which affects SQ but the design as a whole

How about this?


KECES DA-131 SPDIF DAC
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post #8 of 172
10/1/07 at 1:09pm
I believe I might be one of the first ones to have one on Head-Fi. I've had mine for a bit over a year now (I have an earlier rev).

My setup is KECES PCM2702 -> M3 -> ATH-A900.
I've also used it with my NAD speaker amp.
It's well-built and sounds great. I've been thinking about getting their non-USB DAC as well.
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post #9 of 172
10/1/07 at 1:17pm
If anyone in Vancouver would like to listen to what it sounds like, I may be able to meet up somewhere with you. But I have modded some parts of the DAC.
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post #10 of 172
10/1/07 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by gz76 View Post
I know it's only aesthetic, but I'd rather not have a website url etched into the acrylic!

Wow, only $175USD plus shipping.
Well, I'm the guy selling it on Ebay, if you would like, a plain top cover can be used instead, no additional charge for that. But do check with us for stock availability if anyone wants it that way.
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post #11 of 172
10/1/07 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by gz76 View Post
I'd give it a bash if I had need for a low-end USB DAC... but I don't!
I would not call this an low end unit, if you consider it low end because of the price, well I guess it was my fault in trying to keep the final selling price low.


PCM2702 itself is a chip that had often been underestimated, the performance of it is just waiting to be tapped if the circuit supporting the DAC was properly done. Not too long ago people were selling a full sized unit USB DAC with tube output stage for over 1.5K USD. The DAC they used? PCM2702.

I'm not saying this is the same as that, it isn't. However, I believe most would be surprised by how good this unit will sound.

This unit will need about 2 weeks of run-in time for everything to mature a bit, after that, it slows down as it mature.
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post #12 of 172
10/1/07 at 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by fordgtlover View Post
It looks nice, but isn't the PCM2702 a low end chip these days.

Surely for this much trouble they could build a mid range DAC and charge a few bucks more.

Oh. and I agree about the URL on the case - ugly.
PCM2702 was used due to it's SpAct capability, and in the PCM270x and 290x family, it is the one with the best analog output performance.

The case as I said above, have a plain clear top that is available upon request, but will need to confirm availability first.

Please check out our DA-131 as well, as it is one of our first unit to have the new enclosure design.
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post #13 of 172
10/1/07 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by Cankin View Post
You can find the same chip in Cantate but I've read that the dac chip itself isn't the the most important factor which affects SQ but the design as a whole

How about this?


KECES DA-131 SPDIF DAC

Our packing box for this is suppose to arrive on Thursday or Friday, and this unit is head and shoulders above our USB DAC (well, it have to be...).

Please let me know what would you like to know about this DAC, and I'll do my best in answering them
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post #14 of 172
10/1/07 at 9:19pm
Love the looks of DA-131!

Give us some spec love!
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post #15 of 172
10/1/07 at 9:45pm
I prefer the clear look.
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