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post #16 of 37
the reason that i've bought the RS-1, is for rock only.
after reading some threads, the RS-2 would be more suitable for me. reading that the RS-2 is more fun.
when i want detail, i switch back to the HE60.

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post #17 of 37
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Originally Posted by Asr View Post
I got a pair of these in yesterday. After listening last night and for the past few hours, the first thing I have to say is: whoa!

While it's still too early to call this my new favorite headphone (my K701 is currently out of commission and my AD2000 is gone), I can say that the RS1 is the most amazing Grado I've heard to date (have heard SR60, SR80, SR225, and SR325i).

I have both flats and bowls and vastly prefer the flats. Not only do I find them more comfortable but the change to the sound is just more preferrable - there's a touch more mid-range but the added mid-bass balances better against the treble with the flats.

I'll go into sonic details at a later point in time but there are a few things I want to say now. First, the RS1 is the first headphone I've heard that actually captures a violinist's vibrato realistically! I was stunned. I rarely listen to classical but decided to throw some on anyway (just to hear what the RS1 would do) and at first I wasn't even sure what was going on, I thought it was some kind of weird warble. Then I realized it was actually vibrato, wow! The HD650, K701, and AD2000 could never do this, I'm impressed. This makes me want to listen to classical more often.

Second, this headphone is surprisingly interconnect-dependent. Last time I heard an RS1 the ICs were the Audio Art IC-3 which were still burning in. Switching to my Signal Cable Silver Res Analog is a total sonic shift, and I do prefer it with the Signal Cable - more clarity, speedier transients, greater dynamics.

Third, while the Gilmore Lite probably wouldn't be an ideal sonic pairing for it for most people, I find myself preferring it - it increases the PRAT and energy to an addictive level!

And fourth, this headphone is the most ideal I've heard yet for Alison Krauss' music! Union Station has never sounded better - the banjo, guitar, and acoustic bass sound so alive and real, and the RS1 draws out every quick line.

I wasn't planning on keeping these, as the main reason I bought these was for a very temporary situation, but listening to these is making me want to keep them...
ASR, Congrats on your new found RS-1 revelation! I too had a similar experience and revelation when I took the chance and ordered a set of RS-1's. Before that I was a Grado doubter and did not think that the RS-1 would be as good as it was always hyped up to be. Was'nt I so happy and pleased to find out it was not all hype about the RS-1's! I find it is the most enjoyable headphones out of all the ones I have which includes the top end Sennheiser HD650, HD600 and AKG K701 most touted as another "Best" headphones to have. Before I got the RS-1, the other headphones as good as they are, always left me with an unsatisfied feeling somehow, never quite sounding right or 100% enjoyable on all kinds of music that I listen to. With the RS-1's this changed after the first hour of taking them out of the box. Everything just took on a ryhthm and soul in the music that just made me want to listen and listen and turn up the volume because it was so enjoyable. It just sounded so right compared to the other phones. The RS-1 is a great headphone for sure! Yeah, there are times when I prefer the way the Senn HD650 and HD600 phones make a song sound compared to the RS-1's but in 99% of all music content I find the RS-1 has that "right" balance of sound that brings out the "soul" in the music and makes you start tapping your feet or bopping to the music. The other phones don't quite have that effect on me. The AKG K701 as good as they are, are not for me and I may put them up for sale (just thinking about if I should sell them or not). So this should tell you what I think of the RS-1's totally unbiased, honest opinion. The Senn's are my 2nd best headphones now. RS-1 gets the most use since I bought them! Senns sitting on the side, AKG K701 sitting on the side, all my other phones laying around sleeping. RS-1 doing all the work in my house now!
post #18 of 37
I think it still the matter of preferences. 0ne likes electrostats more and other dynamic phones.
Me, since I have got my GS1k, no other phone, except K1k, can touch them playing with JAZZ and CLASSIC music, but thats me.
post #19 of 37
Congrat to hear that you like RS1, especially for Classical. Normally, people loves how it's rock. The other good points of RS1 are fast, dynamic and forwarded sound. It's a good and classic Cans.
post #20 of 37
I got a pair of RS-1 earlier this week and am in love. Of course, new toy effect needs to wear off before a definitive statement is made, but I'm thinking this may end up my favorite pair of headphones that I've owned (even edging out k1k). I heard the RS-1 at a meet and was seriously let down by my expectations, but I still knew I had to own it and use it in my own system (opus dac, beta22)...I'm glad I did. My preference so far is for bowls as flats can sometimes muddy things up.

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If anything, jazz and rock are more alike in this sense.
Agreed, or in my case jazz equates more to a lot of the metal I listen to.

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the problem with grado, it's sound is too blended and slow. i can't follow this kind of music with grado's.
this is the first time I've ever heard this complaint, even in reference to 'stats. I've owned electrostatics (not he60 level, though), and sure, they're faster than grados, but not by much and grados are already plenty fast for any kind of music I've ever heard.
post #21 of 37
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this is the first time I've ever heard this complaint, even in reference to 'stats. I've owned electrostatics (not he60 level, though), and sure, they're faster than grados, but not by much and grados are already plenty fast for any kind of music I've ever heard.

I listen very fast music and I originally chose Grados because I always felt that HD595 simply couldnt keep up. Grado is far from slow IME, though amping might have something to do with it too.


*edit* Though I gotta admit, RS1 definetly feels slower than other Grados I have tried. Probaply because of wood resonances that has been talked about in some thread.

Congrats for the great can Asr!


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jazz and classical are far more complicated than rock. rock is more laid-back. grado is more laid-back.


...rock laid-back...?
post #22 of 37
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Originally Posted by Asr View Post
I have both flats and bowls and vastly prefer the flats. Not only do I find them more comfortable but the change to the sound is just more preferrable - there's a touch more mid-range but the added mid-bass balances better against the treble with the flats.
Always glad to hear of another flats fan - the only way to hear the real Grado magic. Also, couldn't agree more about the Alison Krauss. Over the past few months I had been off on an HD 650 tangent, but with my new Singlepower MPX3 Slam (great RS1 synergy) I seem to be coming back to the RS-1's again, as usual. I think they work great with classical as well. The RS1 headstage is certainly smaller than the 650, but I seem to hear more of the hall ambience through the RS1.
post #23 of 37
welcome to the club Steve!

Give them time. IMHO they are a love hate kind of thing, even for me, one of their biggest fans. There are times I really enjoy them, and there are other times I run screaming for my HF1. 1st, 2nd, 3rd...etc... impressions can change, or so I have found.

They are one of the few cans that do deliver PRAT, yet manage to avoid sounding sterile or flat. Especially when using good SS amps. Ditto what Jahn said above too.

Yes the are revealing enough to expose differences in your source and cables. I can very easily hear differences between the coax digital and toslink inputs on my entech 205. The coax digital sounds a lot warmer, more analog and less metallic in the upper mids. I also like SS amps with my RS1, although there are times when I would prefer tubes too.

Your Arcam deck is a great Grado source IMHO, so long as your amps gain is not too high.

post #24 of 37
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Originally Posted by MaZa View Post
...rock laid-back...?
It certainly can be. Sometimes, I find my RS-1's just a little too bass heavy and treble light (even with bowls) with certain types music and when I'm not in a headbanging-inclined sort of mood; so I actually think the wooden Grado's excel more at jazz, soft rock, and pop than heavy metal and similarly intense music genres.
post #25 of 37
Wooden Grados .... errrr Alessandros!! FTW!! Congratgs on your new find and a huge X2 on what Jahn says about anything stringed, wooden, or recorded live sounds so alive
post #26 of 37
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Definitely; or any live album for that matter!
It's not just me then - I can hardly remove Frampton from the CD player ATM
post #27 of 37
rock is laid-back. perhaps not in noise, but in it's complexity.

good example, listen to a rachmaninov concerto or a scriabin piece. this kind of music you need to hear every note to understand.
listen to led zep, i can have a beer or 2,3,4 and still understand.

more laid back; the congo's - heart of the congos.
post #28 of 37
ASR, I"M SHOCKED hehehe
It beat the ad2000? please tell us more. I am interested to know what you will miss with the ad2000 if the rs1 becomes the one and only
post #29 of 37
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Originally Posted by 19lexicon78 View Post
rock is laid-back. perhaps not in noise, but in it's complexity.

good example, listen to a rachmaninov concerto or a scriabin piece. this kind of music you need to hear every note to understand.
listen to led zep, i can have a beer or 2,3,4 and still understand.

more laid back; the congo's - heart of the congos.


Ah, now I see. For me, laidback is opposite of energic, not complexity. Hence the misunderstanding.
post #30 of 37
You've given me some food for thought though, at most, a rs2 is all that's in my future. I will have lots of options once my yammy gets here... Thanks for your impressions..
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