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post #3586 of 3897
Well, I insert them in a "screw" pattern and they fit good, but they don't sound like i'm getting a good seal. I play my music and its blah, then I push them in on both sides and they sound really good. So, do I have a fit problem, or am I inserting them incorrectly?
post #3587 of 3897
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Originally Posted by yeahx View Post
BIG POPPA you have livewires? Were your impressions free or pretty cheap, if so where did you go? Weird I didnt think BAs burned in but that would explain why I can stand using grey filters on my phonak now.
I bought mine back in the day when Cali was good to order from. Got the impressions from Sonus. They are in your area just look in the phone book. I went to Bellevue and it was 50 bux for impressions
post #3588 of 3897
That's too bad, I hope I can find cheaper if it ever becomes a reality for me. Im interested in hearing about the triple drivers and I'd go for the Fidelity customs over livewires after what I have read. Are the Fidelity just considered to be the same so they just share the same thread still?
post #3589 of 3897
I started a new thread, but now realize this is probably a better location. I'm trying to decide colors for triples, to be ordered this week after I get my impressions done. Looking for pictures of livewires in these color configurations:

Here are the color combo's I'm interested in:
blue face/blue shell
clear face/clear shell
red face/red shell
white face/clear shell

I've found a few shots here and there but I'm looking for more.
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post #3591 of 3897

Livewires upgrade

Hi,

I was one of the original owners of the first livewires when they were introduced back in 2007, and this morning I thought i'd check back to the livewires site to see how john was getting on, only to discover there has been many changes. After reading the last 20 pages of this thread to get up to speed, I have decided to upgrade my livwires to the triple driver versions, however I am undecided on which company to send them to. From my understanding the TN office has a much better turn around time and better customer service, but where my problem lies is how do the 2 companies triple driver earphones differ? Another problem I am faced with is as I will be sending these in for an upgrade and not waiting to receive a brand new pair I will be without my customs which I use on a daily basis and do not have a replacement for, and therefore can't afford for a long turnaround time from the CA office!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Steph
post #3592 of 3897
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Originally Posted by Steph86 View Post
Hi,

I was one of the original owners of the first livewires when they were introduced back in 2007, and this morning I thought i'd check back to the livewires site to see how john was getting on, only to discover there has been many changes. After reading the last 20 pages of this thread to get up to speed, I have decided to upgrade my livwires to the triple driver versions, however I am undecided on which company to send them to. From my understanding the TN office has a much better turn around time and better customer service, but where my problem lies is how do the 2 companies triple driver earphones differ? Another problem I am faced with is as I will be sending these in for an upgrade and not waiting to receive a brand new pair I will be without my customs which I use on a daily basis and do not have a replacement for, and therefore can't afford for a long turnaround time from the CA office!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

Steph
As a similar original owner my first suggestion is to stick with the excellent set of personalised IEMs that you have. Consider a cable upgrade (SteveKelby) as that is well worth it to actually hear all your existing Livewires can offer you.

If you are going to 'upgrade' then I would suggest you'd be limited to whichever office you originally got them from IF you wanted them to re-use your original impressions. However, after 2 years, I'd probably suggest investing in new impressions for both currency and opening up the option of either office. Also that should mean you retain your current Livewires whilst the new ones are manufactured I would think (You should check with whichever office you decide to use).

I don't know to what degree, if any, the 2 companies triple driver earphones differ but would point out that all original Livewires were manufactured by the supplier being used by the TN Office - so if you're after the most experienced manufacturer I'd suggest that office (PLUS, as you can see, most posts indicate better turnaround times, etc).
post #3593 of 3897
That reminds me - I really need to dig out my stevenkelby SPC cable for the LW, since I had switched to the original more flexible cable for portable use and was using the thicker stiffer cable for home but haven't been able to find it. The sound is much better with the upgraded cable, and my recent comparisons have been with the stock LW cable.
post #3594 of 3897
Sorry to hijack the thread, but I was wondering, how do the Livewires stack up against a pair of Sleek Custom (1 driver)? Just trying to make up my mind on what to order...

Thanks!
post #3595 of 3897
btw if anyone is interested I just listed my steven kelby livewires cable in the fs forums for 60+ shipping if anyone wants it.
post #3596 of 3897
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Originally Posted by dakkar View Post
Sorry to hijack the thread, but I was wondering, how do the Livewires stack up against a pair of Sleek Custom (1 driver)? Just trying to make up my mind on what to order...
This review compares the Sleek Customs with the dual-driver Livewires. However, price-wise, the Sleeks are now closer to the triple-driver Livewires (and Fidelity Customs).
post #3597 of 3897
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Originally Posted by webbie64 View Post
As a similar original owner my first suggestion is to stick with the excellent set of personalised IEMs that you have. Consider a cable upgrade (SteveKelby) as that is well worth it to actually hear all your existing Livewires can offer you.

If you are going to 'upgrade' then I would suggest you'd be limited to whichever office you originally got them from IF you wanted them to re-use your original impressions. However, after 2 years, I'd probably suggest investing in new impressions for both currency and opening up the option of either office. Also that should mean you retain your current Livewires whilst the new ones are manufactured I would think (You should check with whichever office you decide to use).

I don't know to what degree, if any, the 2 companies triple driver earphones differ but would point out that all original Livewires were manufactured by the supplier being used by the TN Office - so if you're after the most experienced manufacturer I'd suggest that office (PLUS, as you can see, most posts indicate better turnaround times, etc).
Thanks for the reply,

Unfortunately, however much I would love to keep my current livewires and buy a new pair of the triples I just don't have that sort of money going spare at the moment.

I was planning on sending in new impressions anyway so going with the TN office shouldn't be a problem. I was thinking of doing open mouth impressions this time as last time they were done close mouthed and I feel they could do with being a little tighter to get a better seal. What are your thoughts on this? What type of impression did you do for your livewires?

I have emailed the TN office and am awaiting reply, hopefully they will give me the go ahead and a price, i'll post that inforamtion on here when I do.

If and once the upgrade can be done, i'll consider getting a SteveKelby cable, do you think it will improve the sound of the triples or was it designed for the dual livewires only?

Thanks again for all your help and adivce

Steph
post #3598 of 3897
Stupid question removed.
post #3599 of 3897
The stevenkelby (SK) silver plated copper (SPC) cable improves transparency and micro-detail, so it should improve the triples as well as the dual driver model.

I finally found my SPC cable today (in the bag holding my rds Grado spacers) and tried it with my LW again, and it's just wow! It brings them much closer to the level of my W3 with UM56 tips, although it is also a little more forward sounding than before. The bass seems boosted as well, and bumped more like the W3 than the neutral bass of the ES3X. I do think the sound is more transparent, and despite the extra thickness of the stevenkelby cable I am not sure I want to go back to the more portable original cable now.

I was surprised, but the LW with SK cable are also louder than my ES3X when I swap between them, so the increase in volume, impact and dynamics at first impressed me more when I popped in the LW - but after adjusting the volume to match, the realism in timbre and tone, details and smoothness/refinement of the ES3X wins out. It's like comparing my Grado RS-1 (LW) to my 200+ hour HD800 (ES3X).
post #3600 of 3897
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Originally Posted by Steph86 View Post
Unfortunately, however much I would love to keep my current livewires and buy a new pair of the triples I just don't have that sort of money going spare at the moment.
What I'm implying, particularly if money is the issue, is whether investing the money in the recabling first would give you a more effective result. Gives you a cable for future IEM upgrades and less cost than investing in triples immediately. Have you seen any posts comparing recabled T1s with Fidelity Triples? I personally don't know which would be the better investment and result. Can anybody else help here?

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Originally Posted by Steph86 View Post
I was thinking of doing open mouth impressions this time as last time they were done close mouthed and I feel they could do with being a little tighter to get a better seal. What are your thoughts on this? What type of impression did you do for your livewires?
Definitely open mouthed. Like yourself I took John's advice and used a relaxed closed mouth and then had to get them redone because one side was too loose. If I was to do it again I'd adhere strictly to the UE Guide for the best opportunity of getting a good tight fit first time.

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Originally Posted by Steph86 View Post
If and once the upgrade can be done, i'll consider getting a SteveKelby cable, do you think it will improve the sound of the triples or was it designed for the dual livewires only?
What HeadphoneAddict said (Thanks, HeadphoneAddict).
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