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post #3151 of 3897
May get one when clear becomes available. The SK ones are nice, but out of my budget unfortunatley. With a custom cable, D2 Boa, and a PTH too, my rigs will be done for a year, until i dont have to worry about saving for a car. Then UE11, Pico, Netbook, K701, Millet Max, and latest Cowon D2-like player, then done!

I think worldwide shipping will hurt though. The SK one i had had too much bass, lost highs, unlike when using JetEffects on D2. I love bass if the LW highs are sparkling and there! I want better highs and bass, which SK said he had a cable that would offer that... He was gonna send me one, but i havent seen him around.

Matt
post #3152 of 3897
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Originally Posted by Baines93 View Post
May get one when clear becomes available. The SK ones are nice, but out of my budget unfortunatley. With a custom cable, D2 Boa, and a PTH too, my rigs will be done for a year, until i dont have to worry about saving for a car. Then UE11, Pico, Netbook, K701, Millet Max, and latest Cowon D2-like player, then done!

I think worldwide shipping will hurt though. The SK one i had had too much bass, lost highs, unlike when using JetEffects on D2. I love bass if the LW highs are sparkling and there! I want better highs and bass, which SK said he had a cable that would offer that... He was gonna send me one, but i havent seen him around.

Matt
Once you get you custom cable, D2 Boa and PTH you should go straight for a home rig before worrying about the rest of the portable on your list.
post #3153 of 3897
well I hit 21 days or 3 week estimate on Friday so I am going to wait till next thursday in the hopes they will be here. For whatever reason if they don't show up by then I may need to give them a call and ask what's up.
post #3154 of 3897
I would first go for a millet and home headphone, and use Boa in lounge and at dads, and Boa -> millet at desk/bedside at mums.

Then oneday upgrade to Pico, and UE11 and latest Cowon d2-like player.

Matt
post #3155 of 3897
So in the past three days, I've seen two posts talking about two different alternative cables for the Livewires. How many different custom cables are there and are there any extensive reviews/comparisons here on headfi?
post #3156 of 3897
there are many 3rd party cables for the livewires but I cannot even review mine because I don't have the livewires yet. But I hit 3 weeks this past friday so I expect them in this week
post #3157 of 3897
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Originally Posted by ezzieyguywuf View Post
So in the past three days, I've seen two posts talking about two different alternative cables for the Livewires. How many different custom cables are there and are there any extensive reviews/comparisons here on headfi?
I've been listening to a Picollino cable now for almost two weeks, taking my time to ensure any review I post is comprehensive and not just 'shock of the new'.

I'll have my review completed in the next few days but, in terms of comparison, I can only compare it to the stock cable.

Short comparison is best described as much fuller 'like having a full size headphone on' versus 'thin, plain, ordinary' sound. Now, of course, until I'd heard the Picollino I was only slightly disatisfied with the stock cable (having built a rig that masked its weaknesses I suspect) but now...well, now I think the stock cable is the true weakness in the Livewires T1. I'll also go so far as to say I believe the Picollino pushes the T1 to produce all the sound it can; which is my roundabout way of suspecting a UE11 with picollino would produce an even more extended sound.

However, for me, for everyday portable use - which is what I use Livewires for - it's probably the overall IEM sound I will settle with. Still, IMHO, well short of a portable electrostatic rig (SR-001 with Fat Cat mod), but the isolation factor cuts in to make the Livewires my portable audio choice.
post #3158 of 3897
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I've been listening to a Picollino cable now for almost two weeks, taking my time to ensure any review I post is comprehensive and not just 'shock of the new'.

I'll have my review completed in the next few days but, in terms of comparison, I can only compare it to the stock cable.

Short comparison is best described as much fuller 'like having a full size headphone on' versus 'thin, plain, ordinary' sound. Now, of course, until I'd heard the Picollino I was only slightly disatisfied with the stock cable (having built a rig that masked its weaknesses I suspect) but now...well, now I think the stock cable is the true weakness in the Livewires T1. I'll also go so far as to say I believe the Picollino pushes the T1 to produce all the sound it can; which is my roundabout way of suspecting a UE11 with picollino would produce an even more extended sound.

However, for me, for everyday portable use - which is what I use Livewires for - it's probably the overall IEM sound I will settle with. Still, IMHO, well short of a portable electrostatic rig (SR-001 with Fat Cat mod), but the isolation factor cuts in to make the Livewires my portable audio choice.
No, I have to disagree with you there.

The Livewires with Piccolino Crystal Cable, running off an iMod or Macbook using a Headamp Pico DAC/amp, far outclasses my portable electrostatic SR-001 with Super Fat Cat mods.

I absolutely agree that the Piccolino sound is much fuller "like having a full size headphone on", and I told Steven I really regretted having to send the cable back but it was just too expensive. It is also superior to the other upgraded Livewire and Sennheiser cables available that I reported on in the past (Yes, I tested both). It was also very picky about the amp I used with them, and with the iBasso D2 the cable sounded thin and bright (or I had a stuck balanced armature driver that came loose when I cranked them up with the Pico). I suppose I should have tried the other amps more, once it sounded great with the Pico. What amp or source did you try?
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post #3161 of 3897
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
No, I have to disagree with you there.

The Livewires with Piccolino Crystal Cable, running off an iMod or Macbook using a Headamp Pico DAC/amp, far outclasses my portable electrostatic SR-001 with Super Fat Cat mods.

I absolutely agree that the Piccolino sound is much fuller "like having a full size headphone on", and I told Steven I really regretted having to send the cable back but it was just too expensive. It is also superior to the other upgraded Livewire and Sennheiser cables available that I reported on in the past (Yes, I tested both). It was also very picky about the amp I used with them, and with the iBasso D2 the cable sounded thin and bright (or I had a stuck balanced armature driver that came loose when I cranked them up with the Pico). I suppose I should have tried the other amps more, once it sounded great with the Pico. What amp or source did you try?
Thanks for the pick-up on my spelling of Piccolino. (I reckon all of us tend to have certain words that trip us up in the spelling dept and, for some reason, Piccolino is one of mine ).

In relation to your comments I've also tried with the SuperFatCat SR001s and we definitely hear the rigs we're using differently. And that's just part of the game, really. I mean when I heard the Pico through standard cable Livewires it didn't particularly impress me - I preferred the RSA Predator at the time I was giving them both a go. I stuck with the Xin Supermicro IV, though, because although I believe it's slightly less 'true' in it's voicing, the characteristic it adds of widening the soundstage out, IMHO counterbalances the traditional closed-in headspace we tend to get with IEMs. Which is a way of giving you some context on how you and I might listen differently and no doubt make equipment choices differently as a result.

I did A-B of FLAC through iRiver H140, connected opticaly to iBasso D1 (Tried DAC Opamps LT6234 and LT6241), connected via Piccolino mini-2-mini to either Xin Supermicro IV/Piccolino Livewires T1 or SuperFatCat SR001 (all used regularly and warmed up for the comparison for at least 1/2 an hour beforehand). I also listened through my other preferred portable amp, the RSA SR-71 (original, not the SR-71a, which I am yet to hear).

After a few days with the Piccolino I just wondered how much closer my transportable non-electrostatic set-up had got to my transportable electrostatic set-up. Unlike your impressions, mine were that the SR-001s (even with their inherent weaknesses - topend roll-off, etc) produced an even cleaner overall image (which I know is saying something considering the Piccolino's 'clarity' strength).

I'm finding the Piccolino Livewires with my portable/transportable gear to find their limits in the top end (which is there but more recessed than the APS ER4Ps; and it's more than just the better lower/midrange detail they have over the APS ER4Ps - they definitely just don't deliver up there quite as well...it IS marginal, but it is noticeable to my ears at least )).

For me it's the midrange where the Piccolino delivers in triple spades - it just adds transparency to vocals like nothing else - sort of like the better RSA amps. In fact I'd reckon Ray would love it because its characteristics certainly remind me of the voicing characteristics of his amps. Same with that driving, punchy bass.

And, yes, I agree that one of the characteristics I find with the Piccolino is it does deliver quite truly what it is fed (IMHO this is what we are hearing in the way it synergises so well with some equipment and not so well with others). So if there's even a hint of brightness/thinness/other quite noticeable characteristic, the Piccolino will deliver that characteristic to you emphatically. In fact that term, 'emphatically', is really not bad at describing its characteristics. To me it simply reveals more, removes layers you weren't even perceiving previously, revealing musicality and dynamics and characteristcis of the recording and the other equipment feeding into it. I would not say it was forgiving.

And that, the revealing nature of it, in many ways is what I embrace. It showed me that the reason I'd chosen (for the first time in any audio decisions up to that point) the less detailed D1 opamp (the 6241) for my standard cabled Livewires was to retain a warmer, more bassy sound. But once I'd attached the Piccolino the revealing opamp (the 6234) just sounded ideal - all that it was detailing/revealing was flowing through to the T1s; and the other opamp sounded like an oversweet rich bass-laden sauce (Yes, I do like the occasional non-audio terminology metaphor - but that doesn't mean I'm not doing a serious assessment underneath that metaphor ).

And, as always, all of the above comments tell you as much, if not more, about me and my preferences as they do about this equipment. Like any of us, don't take my words as a gospel to be followed; just a fellow HeadFi-er's impressions of what works in synergy for the equipment I've chosen to use ATM on my portable audio journey.

And, HeadphoneAddict, I totally respect your difference of opinion on the SFC SR-001s (they also DO have their weaknesses obviously - not as good as a full size Stax Amp driving the same phones with a 5pin adapter for instance) but I do promote that you give 'em a second try - again, with a Piccolino mini-2-mini in the mix.

BTW, precsmo , nice pics of the HGA 30awg pure silver cable. I'm a silver fan and even without hearing it I'm sure you're gaining a whole new level of SQ from it.
post #3162 of 3897
Well, SK is amazing, and said he would build me up a cable for me to try that he is sure i will like this time! Even better livewires? Waaaa?

Piccolino Crystal Cable sure sounds interesting, as i use my Livewires as home headphones, the full headphone size sound sounds appealling.

Where? How much? Possible to test?

What is it like with the Boa Larry? Still sounds resonably full-can sounding with a lesser DAC?

Matt
post #3163 of 3897
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Originally Posted by Baines93 View Post
Well, SK is amazing, and said he would build me up a cable for me to try that he is sure i will like this time! Even better livewires? Waaaa?

Piccolino Crystal Cable sure sounds interesting, as i use my Livewires as home headphones, the full headphone size sound sounds appealling.

Where? How much? Possible to test?

What is it like with the Boa Larry? Still sounds resonably full-can sounding with a lesser DAC?

Matt
Where? - Ask SK (maybe he still has the one Larry returned?)
How much? - E-X-P-E- N-S-I-V-E (i.e. more than the LWs themselves )
Possible to test? - Ask SK (Sorry but I'm unwilling to loan mine ATM - using it too much )

Still sounds resonably full-can sounding with a lesser DAC? Well I use it in my portable setup from iRiver Lineout through Xin Supermicro and it still retains that characteristic (just not as comletely full, rich and thoroughly detailed as when I throw the DAC into the mix). However, as HeadphoneAddict indicates, that can depend on the equipment that's feeding it.

Over to you, Larry, for any Boa impressions...
post #3164 of 3897
Ahhh, I didn't realise it was an SK.

I wonder what he is concocting for my test cable?
post #3165 of 3897
people need to post more reference pictures whenever I see pics they don't give a good sense of conveying the actual size of the livewires so post ur precious customs guys
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