Originally Posted by parrot5
Oh I find the ER4 to be reasonable and don't find the bass lacking either... but they hurt my ears and not so convenient for true portable use... I'd be happy with the Livewires if they're even close to that clean sounding.
I was in the same boat like you do now. And your opinion to the er4 is just as what I felt too. I don't agree some claimed that er4 has lesser bass than livewires. However, I would like to make a confusing claim that indeed er4 feel lacking bass once your have experience with the Livewires. Though, I would agree with this myself only with a proper recable job with my livewires (I seriously don't find the stock cable good sounding, especially the bass, it cuts plenty of the low ends away, argghhh!)
For further elaboration of what I'm trying to say is, er4 has the same amount of tight bass as the livewires do. However, I would say the er4 just stop there. But with livewires (again, only with high quality recable, mind is silver), livewires can go much further in the bass spectrums. It can reproduce really good low end bass that make the er4 starts to become to feel lacking in the bass, that's what I'm trying to address here. The bass livewires is capable to reproduce is so full and smooth, it has smooth "vhroom vhroom" and tight "boop boop" that make the er4 sounds like it has only tight "boop boop" and very little "vhroom vhroom". So, that's how livewire really impresses me, and due to this, it makes the listeners feel that it has a lot more bass than the er4, well, many might not agree with me, but that is how i feel.
And more impressing is the extra bass doesn't affect the mid and the high at all, the frequencies are separated really well, and as John said to me personally, and now I do agree that as to John, more than 2 drivers for IEM doesn't make sense to him, at least for the price range livewires is trying to achieve.
And in regards of the mids and highs, however, I personally find that er4 performs better in the highs, maybe I personally like the er4 to be more analytical, it is faster and the high is really perfect to me. But I won't say livewires is inferior either, only that it behaves differently, which I find that it is slower and warmer than er4. However, I also find that livewires can be really reviewing with different sources! So, it can be changed with different combinations of audio devives and amps, hope this help.
And one more thing, I also has the comfort problem with the er4, it was painful for me too! so, it doesn't make sense for me to keep, that was how I got the livewires. And now, I can wear it all day long if I want! 100% no comfort problem!