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post #3091 of 3897
well to be perfectly honest with you I have owned/ used every top top end IEM except for a IE8 and they all have hiss without a amp. I would not expect a high sensitivity custom monitor to be any different
post #3092 of 3897
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Originally Posted by hockeyb213 View Post
well to be perfectly honest with you I have owned/ used every top top end IEM except for a IE8 and they all have hiss without a amp. I would not expect a high sensitivity custom monitor to be any different
The Livewires are significantly more sensitive compared to many of their competitors. According to the manufacturer they are 126dB/mW, by comparison the Westone ES-2 are 119dB/mW, the Sensaphonic 2X-S are 109dB/mW, the Hearyourself C2 PRO/AE2 are 108dB/mW and the Ety ER4P (for generic comparison purposes) are 106dB/mW. I own the Etys and don't find them to have unacceptable levels of hiss with my Ipod Touch or any other source (portable or otherwise). So I don't know what you've been using but my experience does not parallel yours. I'm going to give myself a couple of weeks to decide but my next choice would be the HearYourself AE2 or C2 monitors.
post #3093 of 3897
When i got mine i had a Zen Vision M. The hiss was bad in bed with quiet music, and bad with quiet songs.

I traded it for a Cowon D2 and an 8gb sd, and bought another 2 8gb sd's.

I haven't looked back, love the drag and drop, small size, customizability, sound quality, eq settings, and almost no hiss on quiet songs on very low volume.

Matt
post #3094 of 3897
For me it makes no sense to invest in a new DAP to accommodate these headphones. I'd be better off getting other headphone that would work with the equipment that I already have.
post #3095 of 3897
I just loved them so much, and i needed an upgrade anyway!

Only cost me £40 in SD cards due to a great trade

Matt
post #3096 of 3897
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Originally Posted by Baines93 View Post
Hmmm the Pico doesn't come with a converter for the power supply to use in the UK. Does it charge/run via/off USB like i thought it did? If i use it as an amp, it will be charged as it will have been charged when used as a DAC? Is it possible to charge it by usb and use it as an amp? (Probably wont need to, but i may run out of juice while sitting next to my laptop. I do want to test the amp, and do like my D2's interface sometimes, even when i could just use winamp on the laptop/pc!)

If i dont have an issue with not having external power then im not sure which to choose. If not having the ability to use external power then i will go for the Pred, as i can use it as a DAC with USB power, and charge it via USB while in use, and charge it while using it as an amp, no need for an external power supply.

Larry, i will after trying a Boa I always worry my ears wont notice a difference, as i find lossless to be a bit over rated. And anyway, id love to know how much better it can get, and the Pred and Pico are really top-tier. I love to test things out

EDIT:
Hmmm, thought the Pred would be a better match. I trust Larry. And it sounds like the power options are better considering I dont have a US to UK converter that i would need for the Pico and its charger. In the end i will probably end up trying both out of curiosity of which I like best, however that will cost me another £10 that i could put towards a Boa, however i cant resist trying at least one

Matt
So, do you (or predator owner) have a cable where one end plugs into the USB on the computer and the other end fits the Predators power jack?

Otherwise you have to use the Predator's 5v wallwart to charge it. I would love to find a 5v USB cable that has a plug that fits the predator - I'd use one USB jack on my laptop for music and the other to charge through the power jack on the amp.

The D2 Boa uses any normal USB cable to charge and for music, all on one USB port at the same time.
post #3097 of 3897
Nope, he is just sending the AC->Pred power jack cable. (I have tons of usb cables)

Getting the Pred and fully charged in case i don't find an adapter at home so i will be able to use the amp section as well as the USB powered DAC section.

I probably will end up trying the Pico too, but if i don't, i will know i tried the best synergy top end dac

Yeah, the Boa has a better power management design surprisingly.

Matt
post #3098 of 3897
In reference to hiss, it's most likely the mp3 player generating the hiss. I use my LiveWires directly into my Meizu M6sl player. It has a Wolfson audio chip that handles the all the audio and there is never any hiss. I even use this player through our PA at gigs to play backing tracks for the band and it is always quiet even with the player at full volume.

I have used other players that did not have the Wolfson audio chip and they were usually noisy. I would never carry around an amp to listen casually to music, it would just be too bulky.

Ace
post #3099 of 3897
After it took ages till I got my livewires (half a year in all with one set lost without a trace, the second sent back again after it had been here in Germany already beeing untraceable because the tracking number had been changed) I am quite disappointed:
The lack far more bass than expected. For me they rather sound like my anemic Etymotics 6 than my broken super.fi 5 (the best IEMs I had sofar) and not at all as full and warm as my Beyer DT 770. They isolate from outer noises far worse than the Ety despite a good seal.
I used them mostly direct out of an iPod classic but also with my amps (Ibasso and Meyer), that did not change that much.

The only good news is the comfort even after longer use and the cables with practically no microphonics.
post #3100 of 3897
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Originally Posted by dodap View Post
After it took ages till I got my livewires (half a year in all with one set lost without a trace, the second sent back again after it had been here in Germany already beeing untraceable because the tracking number had been changed) I am quite disappointed:
The lack far more bass than expected. For me they rather sound like my anemic Etymotics 6 than my broken super.fi 5 (the best IEMs I had sofar) and not at all as full and warm as my Beyer DT 770. They isolate from outer noises far worse than the Ety despite a good seal.
I used them mostly direct out of an iPod classic but also with my amps (Ibasso and Meyer), that did not change that much.

The only good news is the comfort even after longer use and the cables with practically no microphonics.
I was surprised why it hasn't been anyone to bring up the issue of the stock cable? Well, I would treat it as an issue. I was very excited of getting the Livewires, and I finally got it just in 3 weeks time, shipped to Malaysia. First of all, I sincerely thank to Steven Kelby for opening the gate for me having the chance of making a custom cable for the Livewires by myself, or else I will never realize that the stock cable has serious quality issue! Maybe this only happen to different batch of the cable in different period, but at least it happens to me, the stock cable made the Livewires sounded horrible! And I was surprised why has not been anyone bringging up the topic??

Before I say more, I seriously urge the new owners who are not satisfy with the Livewires, do think about the stock cable that affects the Livewires that doesn't sound as good as they have been expecting, I know this is hugely dissappointing!

I was really impressed with the Livewires when I first tested it, but it was with my DIY cable that has been done just a week before I got my Livewires. The bass is awesome, the mid and the high is just outstanding, everything is so balancely reproduced. Especially in the bass department, it can really reproduce smooth and low end bass that the Ety er-4p is seriously lacking, when I say it is smooth, it is really smooth low end bass that make the music so full and comfortable to listen with. But the extra bass does not affect the mid and high at all, this is a truely fantastic piece of custom earphone to me, I'm still extremely thrilled with it, and most importantly, it is comfortable! I don't feel pain anymore that I used to have with my previous Ety er-4p.

My current first recable was being made in a horrible way though. It is extremely not flexible, I've ordered the homegrownaudio 30awg pure silver cable, to be paired with the last pair of the connectors I got from Steven.

And now with the stock cable experience that I've had, I was so surprised that a cable can affect the sound quality by this much, I've never experience such difference before from any audio cable. The stock cable is very comfortable and extremely flexible to use with, but it made the Livewires sounds horrible! I'm still in the myth why this is happening to such a good product? The fuller bass that I've got from my custom cable has gone away badly. and the mid and high is a lot harsher, everything become just not refined, for a simple way to say it, it is like an audio being compressed from a lossless to 96k mp3. The difference is so audible, gosh. I almost wanted to make a call to John, but due to my poor spoken english, I still didn't want to do so to give him a wrong feeling, he is a great person!

Again, sorry for my poor english. And again, for the new owners like me, I'm very frank to claim that I'm extremely in love with the Livewires, the UE11 pro was my dream, but I serious can't afford a custom IEM in that price range. I didn't know about the Livewires 3 months ago, and now I'm really really glad to have the Livewires, just love it, no need to say more. But, but! with the stock cable, I really can't say that I can give a good impression to Livewires, so, I really feel lucky myself that Steven offered me the connectors! A thousand thanks! My last words, I'm not sure Steven is still selling custom cables for the Livewires, if he still does, this is great! I've a friend in Singapore who has bought one really good cable made by him for his Livewires, and he is totally happy with it. And he is just exactly did what I did, we both have forgotten where was the stock cable being chucked to!
post #3101 of 3897
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Originally Posted by hockeyb213 View Post
hahahahaha well I don't know why but before I ordered my livewires John was so good about answering my emails after they got my impressions he has not gotten back to me at all /shrug. I just hope to see them soon
Yup! Exactly, this should justify their business culture, I've had exactly the same experience. I've got all prompt reply before I paid, and I've written numerous requests after I've paid them, but I've absolutely none reply from them. But trust me, this is not going to spoil my good expectation from them, once you talk to them on the phone with just anything you wanted to talk to, they are really helpful in every ways! I was glad that I received my Livewires just exactly in 3 weeks time, shipped to Malaysia, I called them to help me to make sure a date certain delivery due to such a coincident that it might fall on the period while I'm travelling, and the lady who had been helping me, Sarah, was really helpful, she helped me with every requests I made from the numerous calls to her.

Also, the first person I called was John! I didn't expect actually I should call him, but I partially accidentally called to his mobile, and the first question he asked me was, how did I came across this product, from Malaysia, and he said he really appreciate that. He is truly friendly and helpful too.
post #3102 of 3897
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Originally Posted by dodap View Post
After it took ages till I got my livewires (half a year in all with one set lost without a trace, the second sent back again after it had been here in Germany already beeing untraceable because the tracking number had been changed) I am quite disappointed:
The lack far more bass than expected. For me they rather sound like my anemic Etymotics 6 than my broken super.fi 5 (the best IEMs I had sofar) and not at all as full and warm as my Beyer DT 770. They isolate from outer noises far worse than the Ety despite a good seal.
I used them mostly direct out of an iPod classic but also with my amps (Ibasso and Meyer), that did not change that much.

The only good news is the comfort even after longer use and the cables with practically no microphonics.
One man's trash is another man's stash. If the Livewires indeed have Ety's sound sig, I'm so happy and eagerly waiting for mine
post #3103 of 3897
Glad you are now happy precsmo. Makes me wonder if ue11's are much better. Even stock they are very good for $250. I love mine

Matt
post #3104 of 3897
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Originally Posted by parrot5 View Post
One man's trash is another man's stash. If the Livewires indeed have Ety's sound sig, I'm so happy and eagerly waiting for mine
In the brief listening that I've been able to do I'd say they sound a bit fuller than my ER4Ps. But I never found the Ety's to be objectionably thin sounding like some others do so bear that in mind.
post #3105 of 3897
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Originally Posted by Baines93 View Post
Glad you are now happy precsmo. Makes me wonder if ue11's are much better. Even stock they are very good for $250. I love mine

Matt
thanks Baines93, yeah, the more expensive the UE11 pro is, the more happy I'm now, ha ha, the Livewires is truly perfect for me now. But I'm still in the myth that maybe the stock cable has variations between different period of manufacturing, I'm really not sure this apply to other owners. I was told by some other users elsewhere and they agree with me too. The difference with my stock cable is day and night, which shocked me!
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