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Originally Posted by filipelli View Post
HPA, wouldn't it be just better to use clear arcrylic nail polish? That is not permanent and has the same result for improving the seal.

Should have read more carefully.

Steven Kelby, yes I have adjusted the seal of my ue5c using clear acrylic nail polish. I had some members pm me about the process but here is what I did. I just prepped the monitor by cleaning with acetone based nail polish, let dry, then apply thin coats. The nail polish I used (Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails) dries immediately, so I waited for 10 min between each coat to add the next layer. Periodically i would try on the monitor to check the fit. After that if it needed more layers, I wiped the monitor with a wet paper towel and continued the application process. I only added layers to where I felt there was a loose
"hole" or "gap". Sealed up my ue5c so much that it rivals universals (shure se530). Try it out.
Well, I wanted something more permanent. I may even do one layer to the left, so they fit the same (anal retentive type A that I am). And, I was confident in my abilities in the case. Other things I wont touch with a 10 foot pole (like a PCB with a soldering iron).
post #2657 of 3897
I used filipelli's method with some clear nail polish worked wonders on the fit. Ever since I got wisdom teeth the fit of my right ear was strange, now it is perfect again

Thank you filipelli!
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Originally Posted by Baines93 View Post
I would DIY one, but i dont think it would be as good, and prolly not the best starting project with these connectors, however i can use an iron, and solder, neatly, but i have never done cables (apart from stick a wire on an LED) or SM.

Put me on the list for a test of the cable, or a test cable. Would shipping be much from Aus to UK, and UK to Aus? No huge insurance needed right, so no more than shipping ER6i's and tips to Aus Airmail (£1.64)?

Matt
The MCX connectors are a pretty tight solder job internally, need a sharp tip to get in there and a steady hand not to flood the sides with solder, ruining it. I can solder like a pro, if I do say so myself, and I give it a difficulty of 7/10.

I might send around a cable for people to try, maybe a couple cables, maybe all together, for a few days or so, then ship to the next person?

Everyone keen, PM me your name and address and I'll start a list. You have to pay shipping to the next person, and PM me your thoughts/preference. I want to keep it all top secret so the next person doesn't get influenced by your thoughts. When I get the cable back everyone can repeat their thoughts in public and we'll pick a winner (or a loser, if they both sound bad ) . What do you think?

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Originally Posted by TStewart422 View Post
lol And while y'all are going on and on about changing out cables or whatever other mods you want...

... I will continue to listen to my left monitor all alone, waiting for the pleasure that I have been denied...
Bummer dude. Hang in there.

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Originally Posted by slowth View Post

erm.. I think the 1st person who did it extensively was me? And I live in Singapore ha, just as far from Florida!

name's Johann aka slowth heee

Anyway, i've added 20 odd layers and now they're more or less perfect. They feel snug, they don't break seal whatever I do. =)

From Freq's instructions, I followed it as closely as I can and it's been a success. The main area to apply polish too would be the canal portion as you'd want the canal part thick enough to fill up the canal circumference. I was advised against acrylic because it's more permanent than nail polish and there'd be less margin for error.

Steve, what you can do is to just add very thin layers to to the tip of the canal, all around the circumference- just the last .5cm of the canal would be more than sufficient.
you may also want to add abit to the "junction" where the canal portion meets the body, just below the bottom-most driver of your LW. just about a brush stroke in width and about a cm in length.

Do a very thin coat.. leave it for say half an hour, clean it and then test it. And then repeat the process where necc..

I've tried addin at any ol place where I felt it could use polish but that din help too much and i've had to redo and I've concluded that a systematic application works best.

I'm all about ready to ship it off to Freq within this week. =)
Thanks a bunch Johann, very useful, Do you have a ink to that on Freqs site, or did they email you?

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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
With my second pair of Livewires, I could break the seal on the right only if I made a huge wide cheshire cat grin. One day I cleaned the skin oils off the right earpiece with alcohol, and then plugged the sound tubes gently with a pair of round toothpicks. I then applied two coatings of Tamiya Clear Gloss Acrylic Paint aprox 4 hours apart, and let it dry for 12 hours overnight.

In the morning it looked like they were made that way, no evidence of having added any extra layers, and the minor fit problem was better. I did apply a third coat later, which now makes it impossible to break the seal (in either ear), although the right is slightly tighter than the left. Since I can't break the seal on the left at the moment, I am not doing anything about the left being slightly looser.

WARNING - using the acrylic gloss clear paint is permanent! You might want to do one layer and test in 12-24 hours, then wipe with alcohol and add another layer if needed.
Thanks Larry, did you coat the entire thing or just portions? I haven't decided on nail polish or tamiya acrylic yet. Have to think about it.

Also,my right is great, if a little loose, but th left sometimes gets attenuates if it's positioned wrong, I think the holes in the end are pointing in the wrong direction and touch the side of my ear hole. When I push the connector to the front of my head, to my face, it opens up a gap in the outer part of my ear and the sound gets slightly clearer and louder for a while till it goes back again. Maybe I'll build up some clear coat on one side to angle it like that a bit.


Has anyone sanded some material off at all to change the shape? I might try it.

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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
I'll be happy to work out a deal for one of your cables if it is an improvement.
Cool, we'll see if sounds any good I'll keep my opinion to myself either way until people have tried it. Id love your opinion too, you've certainly go a large pool of experience!

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Originally Posted by filipelli View Post

Steven Kelby, yes I have adjusted the seal of my ue5c using clear acrylic nail polish. I had some members pm me about the process but here is what I did. I just prepped the monitor by cleaning with acetone based nail polish, let dry, then apply thin coats. The nail polish I used (Sally Hansen's Hard as Nails) dries immediately, so I waited for 10 min between each coat to add the next layer. Periodically i would try on the monitor to check the fit. After that if it needed more layers, I wiped the monitor with a wet paper towel and continued the application process. I only added layers to where I felt there was a loose
"hole" or "gap". Sealed up my ue5c so much that it rivals universals (shure se530). Try it out.
Cheers for the advice, sounds good. I'll try all the ways and see what works for me. Won't be for a week or so till I get time though.

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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
And, I was confident in my abilities in the case. Other things I wont touch with a 10 foot pole (like a PCB with a soldering iron).
You send me your PCB to solder and I'll send you my LWs to fit to my ears


PS, the treble has opened up, it goes slightly higher tonight after another full day of max burn in. Mids haven't changed much since last night but I am getting used to them now. Enjoying these.

Anyone else experienced any burn in with these? It's not huge by any means but there have been some changes for sure.
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Ok, im just about to PM you.

Will shipping be crazy much? If it doesnt need more than £36 insurance then for us in the UK it wont be more than £1.64 easily, back to you anyway, as my er6i's weighed more and just plain airmail, insured to 36 was only £1.64 and that is the other side of the world so other countries shouldn be any more right?

Just dont want a £25 shock, i just dont have that kind of money just to test this at 15.

I will be able to give opinions on sound, but not as many as i can/will on asthetics, comfort, microphonics etc, im a bit of a sound newb, but i know these sound good, just cant explain mids etc. I guess my ears just dont have the ability to sense tiny differences (IMO) like when testing 96k to 192k bitrates.

Matt
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Steve,

Todd, the president of the company handles all the emails himself and he told me personally.

if you want, let me know and I can forward you his liase with me.
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Originally Posted by Baines93 View Post
Ok, im just about to PM you.

Will shipping be crazy much? If it doesnt need more than £36 insurance then for us in the UK it wont be more than £1.64 easily, just dont want a £25 shock, i just dont have that kind of money just to test this at 15.

I will be able to give opinions on sound, but not as many as asthetics, comfort, microphonics etc.

Matt
No worries Matt, we'll keep the insured/declared value as cheap as you need to

Steve
post #2662 of 3897
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Originally Posted by slowth View Post
Steve,

Todd, the president of the company handles all the emails himself and he told me personally.

if you want, let me know and I can forward you his liase with me.
Johann,

Thanks but that's cool, I got enough info from your post

Steve.
post #2663 of 3897
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Originally Posted by Baines93 View Post
I will be able to give opinions on sound, but not as many as i can/will on asthetics, comfort, microphonics etc, im a bit of a sound newb, but i know these sound good, just cant explain mids etc. I guess my ears just dont have the ability to sense tiny differences (IMO) like when testing 96k to 192k bitrates.

Matt
Maybe it's a young thing, brother. I'm only 23 and while I'm a stickler for high-quality sound, I'm not exactly up on the audiophile language and describing in detail how stuff sounds better. To me, it's black and white. It's either better or it's not.

My small listening session with the LiveWires has me wondering if I like their sound better than the Shures. I need to bust out The Dark Side of the Moon or even Sgt. Pepper's to compare with finality. But, for sure, they're MUCH more comfortable. I wore them for several hours straight before finally removing them!

Btw: As far as bitrate goes, Exact Audio Copy with LAME 3.97 VBR or even Nero AAC VBR works out very well. I'm also not one of the lossless-lovers here.

*hides from flying objects*
post #2664 of 3897
My issue with the mids turns out to be mostly the recordings, and a bit of burn in, which hasn't changed in the last 48 hours that I can tell.

On Bjork's Hunter, the mids sound like I was talking about, not bad or anything, just a bit different, like the singer is too close to the mic or something. In a coupe of lines, that deliberate effect is removed and she sounds perfectly natural.

These do the bass on that track very nicely too now they are burned in, bass has definitely gotten deeper than it was by a few Hz.

My seal hasn't changed, I have to do something to make it perfect. I bought some clear nail polish and then decided not to use it. I'm going with Tamiya Acrylic, I will get some tomorrow. If I put too much in one spot I will rub it back with some fine wet and dry paper, which I have tried on a tight spot. Carefully.

Back to work now.
post #2665 of 3897
ooh adventurous.. all the best to the alteration!
post #2666 of 3897
how are livewires against shure 530's?
post #2667 of 3897
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Originally Posted by hockeyb213 View Post
how are livewires against shure 530's?
More clearer than SE530, more detailed.
Bass is not as grandiose as SE530, but enough to be rock your feet.

Much more spacious than SE530 & the positioning of sound is in every way better than SE530.

IMO, it's better than SE530, a big step a head of 530s.
post #2668 of 3897
okie dokie then I am prob going to get them with black faceplates and either clear or a red and a blue shell since ultimate ears are very expensive for what they have to offer
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also how do you order 2 different shell colors check off both on the order form?
post #2670 of 3897
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Originally Posted by killkli View Post
More clearer than SE530, more detailed.
Bass is not as grandiose as SE530, but enough to be rock your feet.

Much more spacious than SE530 & the positioning of sound is in every way better than SE530.

IMO, it's better than SE530, a big step a head of 530s.
Agreed. I posted links to my thoughts of LW vs SE530 and others in the old livewires pictures thread, and farther back in this thread.
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