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post #16 of 63
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Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
It seems that using this tweak with cheap CD players gives big improvements.
Not necessarily. At least, I wouldn't qualify the RAM-modded HD-841 as either "cheap" or sonically lacking prior to tweaking--it's been reasonably well documented as a top performer (and costs $1000 out-of-pocket), and even touted as a "giant-killer" in its own right. Other CT testimonials report improvement to more expensive players, too.

Ric Schultz at Electronic Visionary Systems just modded the Oppo 970HD for me (for $800--its sounds super, by the way). Part of his mod blackens the Oppo's tray (which by default is clear plastic) with permanent marker to improve optical reading of the disc.

Codename Turquoise is really closer in color to the green side of the Marigo Signature cd Mat, and operates on the side opposite the Marigo. The Marigo mats have consistently garnered compliments for the perceivable improvements they bring to the listening experience.

I also sand the inner and outer edges of my cds, blacken them with permanent marker and treat both planar surfaces with Auric Illuminator before playing. I suppose that disclosure will elicit more guffaws from the local "gallery of disdain" having congregated on this thread like eaters of carrion, but so be it. : )
post #17 of 63
Glad you like the tweak, though I'm not sure how turquoise would work better than the standard tray colour... black.

I also would hesitate to buy anything from Machina Dynamica given their Brilliant Pebbles and Teleportation Tweak.
post #18 of 63
Doesn't the CD player lift the CD off the tray to play it? And doesn't the laser point up away from the tray, not down at it? Are you worried about the laser reflecting off the CD back off the tray and back up to the CD again? Hmmm... One more question... Do I really have to spend $40 to know that it makes no difference?!

See ya
Steve
post #19 of 63
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you do not necessarily have to 'use' or 'be exposed' to a certain product to conclude that it's non-functioning - we generally like to call that 'common sense'
Well, it used to be common sense that the world was flat. I have no experience with the product in question nor do I plan to try it, but it does look like something that may work from a logical perspective compared to some of the other products Machina Dynamica offers.
post #20 of 63
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... Do I really have to spend $40 to know that it makes no difference?!

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Steve
Yes! the operative word being "know." Of course you don't to surmise that or personally believe that. But to say you KNOW and to assert the truth of that to others you DEFINITELY DO.
post #21 of 63
For this tweak to work, it would have to eliminate read errors, correct? There is no other possible way for it to work.

Note that the MD web page only claims that stray light "might" be picked up as a real signal. It offers no proof that issue is commonplace, or rare, or that this tweak has been subjected to any testing to prove that it does reduce errors caused by stray light.

Did the makers of transports fail to realize that stray light would cause problems and completely ignore that in the design? I doubt that.

It would be easy to prove that this worked or not. With the proper equipment, it is straightforward to confirm that the data stream out of the transport matches what is on the CD. And if those errors are reduced with the tweak in place, then it might have some value. If the errors are not reduced, then this is a only a dishonest way of putting more dollars in Geoff Kait's wallet.

What other reputable audio firm puts links to online dating services at the top of its pages, I wonder????? And the Teleportation Tweak is enough to convince me that this guy is an unethical idiot simply trying to exploit the lack of technical understanding of many hobbyists.
post #22 of 63
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Can I quote that in the next cable thread where someone says, "If you haven't heard the Zeus Notung Mark XIV sterling silver zircon encrusted cable, you can't comment on whether it sounds the same as Radio Shack"?

See ya
Steve
It depends; 'common sense' != universal common sense, which means the 'common sense' you possess is a direct reference to what you know and what you can reasonably interpret/extrapolate from that knowledge.

e.g. a person with a BA in English will not have the same 'common sense' regarding cable performance as someone else with a PhD in EE, Physics and Material Science.

hope that helps
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post #24 of 63
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Originally Posted by zotjen View Post
Well, it used to be common sense that the world was flat.
Funny you mention that... I just posted this in this thread: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showth...=261317&page=2

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Originally Posted by Agnostic View Post
Actually recent scientific research suggests the world may indeed be flat, or more accurately a 2-dimensional hologram:
http://www.primidi.com/2003/07/14.html
post #25 of 63
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Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
Just because some of Machina Dynamica's products work on placebo doesn't mean all of them do.

http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina34.htm





It seems that using this tweak with cheap CD players gives big improvements.
patrick sees all the information and calls it like it is


Patrick for Prez!
post #26 of 63
People buy into this garbage? Wow, there is alot of foolish suckers out there just waiting to hand over their money.

If they get screwed this easily, they DESERVE IT.
post #27 of 63
Machina Dynamica was obviously started as a joke, a "how absurd can we make a product and still have 'audiophiles' buy it" prank. They must have been delightfully amazed to have people take their products seriously, let alone buy them!
post #28 of 63
do i need to die in a fire to know it will hurt me?
post #29 of 63
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Originally Posted by chesebert View Post
It depends; 'common sense' != universal common sense, which means the 'common sense' you possess is a direct reference to what you know and what you can reasonably interpret/extrapolate from that knowledge.
Brilliant obfuscation! I'll use that one in the jitter threads!

See ya
Steve
post #30 of 63
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Yes! the operative word being "know." Of course you don't to surmise that or personally believe that. But to say you KNOW and to assert the truth of that to others you DEFINITELY DO.
So we won't KNOW the sun will rise tomorrow morning until around 5:30 AM? Perhaps I shouldn't make any appointments until I know for sure.

See ya
Steve
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