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Anyone else had any experience with this DVD/CD player drawer treatment/tweak. I tried it (for $39) and was absolutely amazed with the results. Biggest bang for the least bucks tweak I've ever tried! : )
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Anything and everything from Machina Dynamica is absolute garbage. No exceptions at all. It is the king of audio snake oil and straight lies. What you are hearing is the placebo effect in full bloom.
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. . . and coming from a guy who, I'd wager, has never tried Codename Turquoise . . . ?
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. . . and I beg to differ with you on this one (it's the only MD product I've ever purchased, BTW). Unlike probably every other MD product (about which I heartily share your snake oil/flim-flam sentiments), Codename Turquoise (CT) looks like it has technical merit with respect to providing a light-absorbing surface and mass-damping. Same principles behind the tried and true Marigo CD mats. In fact, I've used CT in tandem with the Marigo Signature Mat and the effect was an additive, if not multiplicative, overall improvement.
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. . . and I beg to differ with you on this one (it's the only MD product I've ever purchased). Unlike probably every other MD product, Codename Turquoise (CT) looks like it has technical merit with respect to providing a light-absorbing surface and mass-damping. Same principles behind the Marigo CD mats. In fact, I've used CT in tandem with the Marigo Signature Mat and the effect was additive, if not multiplicative, overall improvement.
Turquoise isnt really light absorbent, black is. And 2-3 grams of paper isn't mass dampening.
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Anything and everything from Machina Dynamica is absolute garbage. No exceptions at all. It is the king of audio snake oil and straight lies. What you are hearing is the placebo effect in full bloom.
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I support your endeavors pataburd. You are a true hero.
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Yeah because none of the audiophile CD player engineers know what's the best color for their trays...
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It's easy for folks to gainsay with (I'm willing to bet) zero exposure to the product in question. : )
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you do not necessarily have to 'use' or 'be exposed' to a certain product to conclude that it's non-functioning - we generally like to call that 'common sense'

You will never have enough money if you keep on falling for these types of misleading marketings with groundless claims (I actually prefer to use the term fraud to describe Machina, but that's just me)
post #12 of 63
Just because some of Machina Dynamica's products work on placebo doesn't mean all of them do.

http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina34.htm

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"If you think the Turquoise Masking Kit is snake oil, you'd be DEAD WRONG. These simple looking pieces of paper resurrected an old Denon 3520 CD player that wouldn't play a single disc without skipping! If you're having this problem, BUY THIS PRODUCT!" - May 2007
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"Codename Turquoise turned my $200.00 CD player into a $10,000 CD player. SIMPLY INCREDIBLE." - August 2007
It seems that using this tweak with cheap CD players gives big improvements.
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you do not necessarily have to 'use' or 'be exposed' to a certain product to conclude that it's non-functioning - we generally like to call that 'common sense'
Can I quote that in the next cable thread where someone says, "If you haven't heard the Zeus Notung Mark XIV sterling silver zircon encrusted cable, you can't comment on whether it sounds the same as Radio Shack"?

See ya
Steve
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you do not necessarily have to 'use' or 'be exposed' to a certain product to conclude that it's non-functioning - we generally like to call that 'common sense'
In other venues, that very statement may be construed as simply not knowing what you're talking about. : )
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you do not necessarily have to 'use' or 'be exposed' to a certain product to conclude that it's non-functioning - we generally like to call that 'common sense'
Can I quote that in the next cable thread where someone says, "If you haven't heard the Zeus Notung Mark XIV sterling silver zircon encrusted cable, you can't comment on whether it sounds the same as Radio Shack"?

See ya
Steve
Sure you can? Should you? No, because it would be making an entirely false analogy. If someone claimed this fancy cable was non-functioning or that the rs one was without using it, then you'd have an analogous situation and one that disproved the notion of judging without using first.

The common sense would be about whether it is worth ones time and effort to make an informed judgment for oneself by trying it out. It does not give one a basis to claim to others it is non-functional, especially when the others, as in the cable case, are fellow audiophiles who have tried out cables and reported hearing the difference(s).
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