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post #1 of 13
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okay, i know there have been a lot of posts concerning customs and excise duties and similar, often in the respective areas of the forum, in portable audio or amps, headphones etc etc.

i have put this in here, so as to hopefully not be off topic but still address thre issue.

i live in the scottish borders. which technically is classed as scotland. but is geographically only just over the border of england.

i mention that now so as to refer to it later.

i have lived here for a year, since moving from england.

in england, i ordered computer kit, audio kit and lots of other things over the years. and a fair few times, 5+ i have had to pay a hefty import/vat duty.

not complaing about that, just letting you know the frequency.

ok.

i havent though about it until today, and have always fathomed it in as a potential expected premium on the price, incase i get hit!

well since living over the border here, i have never been charged once any import/customs related duties;

and here is what i have ordered and where it has originated from (if overseas);

SONY NW-HD5H 30GB AUDIO PLAYER from Belgium - $381/£82/€275
C&C CRYSTAL MINI TO MINI from China - $30/£15/€22
IMOD 60GB IPOD PHOTO from USA - $234/£115/€168
ALO CRYO X SILVER from USA - $120/£59/€86
RNB AUDIO DIAMOND MINI from USA - $70/£34/€50
XIN SUPERMACRO III V6 + CHARGER from Germany - $234/£115/€169
YOTANK CASE from USA - $83/£41/€60
XM4 AMP + CHARGER OPTION from Canada - $166/£82/€120

all prices shown are the final total payed including shipping to me.

+ OTHER ITEMS TOO LOW IN VALUE TO REALLY COUNT

now i find that there could be three possible options;
  1. very luck thus far
  2. its because of my location (scotland as opposed to england)
  3. i have some/all on delayed cusoms charges - (which can happen mnths down the line - pleaseee nOooOO..)

so for those of you who get hit up with import duties, why do you think i am not getting 'got' with all these foreign imports.?

dont just say, you should count yourself lucky, dont moan about it!! - believe me i do count myself lucky

but am very interested to know if anyone from scotland is getting charged for importing similar items and wales, ireland, england too, or anywhere .... anyone can chip in
post #2 of 13
I've always been charged VAT.
post #3 of 13
You don't get charged when it comes from the EU I think, so your Sony and amp don't count.
post #4 of 13
I've only been caught once where the item had entered the UK with Parcelforce and they not only held the item back pending import duty payment but added on a non-negotiable extortionate 'handling fee' which I was rather annoyed about.

I guess it balances out as I've also had plenty come straight through where I've expected to pay.
post #5 of 13
Perhaps it's something to do with which airport/port the goods arrive in. I think Manchester airport has a HMRC office on site, other airports might not.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by GTRacer View Post
You don't get charged when it comes from the EU I think, so your Sony and amp don't count.
AFAIK you do get charged VAT. The percentage depends on which country you live in.

edit: I remember where I got that from.
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by jules650 View Post
AFAIK you do get charged VAT. The percentage depends on which country you live in.

edit: I remember where I got that from.
It's usually seamless when ordering from online stores in the EU. I've odered from thomann.de before and I don't remeber any hassles or extra VAT invoices. It's still good though, since there are no "handling charges" from couriers or Parcelforce.

I remember recieving a VAT invoice from Fedex for just under £1200 ( <-- me). It was some stupid error made by the seller (thought he was clever putting a mutiple thousand pound value, in case it got lost...)


EK
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by goodychrischild View Post
I've only been caught once where the item had entered the UK with Parcelforce and they not only held the item back pending import duty payment but added on a non-negotiable extortionate 'handling fee' which I was rather annoyed about.
I've been spiked by Parcelforce before too. IIRC it was for a US$72 LCD imported from Hong Kong, and I was living in England at the time, the total handling fee+import fee+customs tax+VAT ended up at £35, around the same as the value of the LCD

I got really annoyed because the way they did it was:
Value of item+shipping charge+import fee, then total it and charge customs tax, then total it again and charge VAT. I hasseled HMRC about it for months but they wouldn't budge.

I may be getting the name of each tax/fee wrong.
post #9 of 13
I think it may have something to do with the courier. Buying stuff from the states to canada. I've never gotten hit with FedEx. But have gotten hit every time with UPS.
post #10 of 13
I get stuff from Canada to England by FedEx every now and then at work, and I have received notification of duty before (although the sender takes care of this)... So FedEx is not immune.

UPS seem to put everything through customs by default because they charge a £10 (maybe more now) fee for doing it.

I've found USPS Air to be ok.
post #11 of 13
I didn't have to pay VAT or anything else for some E4s and some cables because of the low declared value presumably but I did have to pay VAT and Parcelforce's 'handling charge' on a Gilmore Lite. I've got some headphones coming in next week so I'll see what happens.
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by DJShadow View Post
I've got some headphones coming in next week so I'll see what happens.
Me too
post #13 of 13
hi,
we are a Customs related supplier for Ireland - the situation here;
every shipment (from outside EU) requires a customs declaration, not all goods are liable to duty charges and this depends on their discription/product classification, most products are liable to VAT but there are a small number of exeptions. the method of shipment needs to be considered also, goods can slip through the post (shouldn't but can) where if they go through any other shipping method they will be caught for a Customs declaration - that said the Revenue commissioners here do spot checks on posted product also!

hope this helps
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