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post #16 of 62
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Originally Posted by jinx20001 View Post
well among that praising (or non bashing) you obviously did not see the 16ohm impedance,let me guess thats a typo aswell and most likely 160ohm no?? the fact is its not just the frequency range its a number of things that dont paint a good impression, and its the impression they give that we are bashing.
Man I don't like whats happening to head-fi lately ....

No, thats not a typo. Look at denons, audio technica, grado, some AKGs. Are you trying to suggest that low impedance somehow equates to low quality? Yes I looked up on the jp site, 60mW is not a typo. However, I still believe that may be because of the booster. Yes, you heard. My theory was right. Check this out:
http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

Look towards the bottom, there is a picture of the "booster" which you may click to enlarge. And under it is the caption "The booster attachment which corresponds to the output level of the various equipment"

My guess is that the booster can't handle more than 60mW. And, sony realizes that 90% of all devices that headphones are plugged into struggle to put out 5 or 10mw.

My guess is that once the booster is removed, you will be opened up to the possibility of hooking the headphones up to a much nicer amp. I could be wrong (and even then it is still possible that it will sound great), but it seems likely to me.
post #17 of 62
The number is meaningless so arguing about it is meaningless.

It could be 20, 30 or 40 db down at 35 hz since it's not qualified. A carrot has a frequency response of 35hz to 25khz.


Mitch
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post #19 of 62
The frequency response actually looks like quite an honest rating. I can't judge it of course because I've never heard it, but it's nothing like the 7hz-40khz that many manufacturers claim. Also, lets not forget the K1000. It starts to roll off around 55Hz and is silent at 45Hz. And it is rated at 35hz-20khz.
post #20 of 62
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Thanks, feifan, for posting the large pics!

GAWD! These things are odd looking! Why do I get the feeling that the alien from Predator would strap these on while kicking back with a brew and planning his next hunting expedition to earth?
post #21 of 62
lol speakers on head....
post #22 of 62
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Originally Posted by robinclp View Post
lol speakers on head....
Seriously. Why don't people just start buying bookshelf speakers, nailing a 2x4 to them and hang them over their shoulder? Some of these headphone designs lately are absurd. Did you see the Skull Candy G.I.? That one really annoyed me.
post #23 of 62
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
Seriously. Why don't people just start buying bookshelf speakers, nailing a 2x4 to them and hang them over their shoulder? Some of these headphone designs lately are absurd. Did you see the Skull Candy G.I.? That one really annoyed me.
Can you power bookshelf speakers with batteries, or directly out of an iPod? Can you mount bookshelf speakers on a headband? Can bookshelf speakers be designed to act like a headphone and not leak so much sound without touching your ears?
post #24 of 62
Good for Sony on bringing a new design to market although I'm not going to pull the trigger on a pair at that price. It's cool to see some thinking outside the box brought to market.
post #25 of 62
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Originally Posted by Assorted View Post
Can you power bookshelf speakers with batteries, or directly out of an iPod? Can you mount bookshelf speakers on a headband? Can bookshelf speakers be designed to act like a headphone and not leak so much sound without touching your ears?
It was a sarcastic comment, obviously not to be taken literally. You have to admit, these Sony's look ridiculous. A speaker in front with a tube going into your ear? I'd try them just because I'm curious, but I wouldn't buy a pair.
post #26 of 62
Oh was I not being sarcastic as well.

I think headphones in general look ridiculous. But is it more convenient? Definitely.

The points you raised seem very vague. Can you accurately hear sub 35 Hz sound in your Triple.fi's? Even if you can, would it matter much? What difference should it make if a device is self powered? Maybe it works better that way.
post #27 of 62
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
I'd try them just because I'm curious, but I wouldn't buy a pair.
Why not? What if they are a K1000 killer? I'm not saying they are, but what if? I can't believe all the people that seem to have preconceived bad notions about these new headphones. Sony has proven in the past what they can do with dynamic drivers. The R10, Qualia 010, CD3000, F1, SA5000, etc...

What if it really is as good as they say? It almost seems to me as the reincarnation of the Qualia. Seriously, why are people complaining how it looks? They are obviously not meant to go walking around in public with, if not only because of how open they are. Give them a chance to catch on instead of acting like a-holes. Yeah they might not be great, but then again they might be, and I personally have high hopes and can't wait to read the first reviews. If there are none, I may sell some equipment and buy a pair.

And you seem to be totally ignoring my findings that they most likely only have a max input of 60mw when using the "booster". In fact I am e-mailing sony right now.
post #28 of 62
Andrew, I completely agree with you, damn, nobody here tried it yet so you can't judge by design, specs, etc... When I first visited head-fi, I thought Grados were cheap looking so I thought they sucked in SQ... look what happened to me !
post #29 of 62
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Originally Posted by Assorted View Post
Oh was I not being sarcastic as well.

I think headphones in general look ridiculous. But is it more convenient? Definitely.

The points you raised seem very vague. Can you accurately hear sub 35 Hz sound in your Triple.fi's? Even if you can, would it matter much? What difference should it make if a device is self powered? Maybe it works better that way.
Yes, I can hear lower than 35Hz with my Triple.Fi and my Denon's. I've run test tones and sweeps on both of them.
post #30 of 62
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Originally Posted by 003 View Post
And you seem to be totally ignoring my findings that they most likely only have a max input of 60mw when using the "booster". In fact I am e-mailing sony right now.
I just read the Sony Japan specs site. It said "Total output 60 mW," which I assume is referring to the booster.

It also says "The booster responds to output levels of various sources, so is it like a gain thing?
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