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post #16 of 33
9/11/07 at 10:19pm
makes sence i spose,i really cant see why they keep breaking on you then,when your listening at extremely high volume do you bounce your head around and smash them off an amp like a guitar or something because thats the only way damage could be caused,i mainly use shure earphones,namely the se530 but ive never had any damage occur and ive played them real high on occasion.

the other cause could be playing them well above rated input but that dont seem to be the case according to you earlier comments about what you use
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post #17 of 33
9/11/07 at 10:43pm
doesn't your mp3 player have like 20 volume levels and what do you listen to them at?
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post #18 of 33
9/11/07 at 11:02pm
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It goes up to 25 I usually listen at around 20 to 23 but when a good song comes on like Black Rain or My Jeckle Doesn't Hide I tend to turn it up to 25
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post #19 of 33
9/11/07 at 11:48pm
The fact that you have gone through multiple sets of headphones means that the problem is not the headphones itself.

I have a Zen Micro 5GB which begins to clip at anywhere from 18-23 depending on the source material.

I'm still going to insist that your Zen is past its clipping point and sending a distorted signal to your SE210's. Just about all MP3 players clip & distort at their highest volume levels...just because you can't hear it doesn't mean that it isn't there.

I'm also going to reiterate the suggestion that you turn the volume down. Just because you have no problems now doesn't mean that you aren't hurting your ears. With a sensitive IEM being driven at full volume, you WILL do damage to your hearing. Talking about 'feeling the bones in your ears vibrating' is quite disconcerting I must say...
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post #20 of 33
9/11/07 at 11:52pm
Listening at that volume, you'll blow our your ears in no time. Please turn it down so you can enjoy music down the road. Best of luck!
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post #21 of 33
9/11/07 at 11:52pm
i think you're not getting a tight seal.... if you're using an iem at full volume with tight seal, i can guarantee you that your ears will hurt like crap
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post #22 of 33
9/11/07 at 11:56pm
You might as well just change your name now from elvendio to eldeafo. Seriously man, chill on the super loud volumes. It's not like everyone here is telling you that because we want to sound like your parents. It's the truth, and it has caused many of us problems with our ears before.

Don't you think it's better to enjoy music at lower volumes now and lower volumes later in life, or would it be better to listen at high volumes now and not at all later in life?
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post #23 of 33
9/12/07 at 12:40am
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It's only like 109 decibels and no it doesn't hurt when I have it that loud and I do have a tight seal. I wouldn't listen to it that high all the time or for long periods of time but if I try and turn it down I just end up turning it back up a little at a time until the bones start shaking.

Other IEM's go up to 119 decibels. Do they shatter your eardrums? I apreciate your concerns tho and I'll try to take it easy but I have been listening to loud music for 25 years without a problem however I do think I'm pushing it a bit these days.
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post #24 of 33
9/12/07 at 12:44am
ONLY 109 dB?!? a jet engine is 19 dB less you know
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post #25 of 33
9/12/07 at 12:50am
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Originally Posted by IPodPJ View Post
You might as well just change your name now from elvendio to eldeafo. Seriously man, chill on the super loud volumes. It's not like everyone here is telling you that because we want to sound like your parents. It's the truth, and it has caused many of us problems with our ears before.

Don't you think it's better to enjoy music at lower volumes now and lower volumes later in life, or would it be better to listen at high volumes now and not at all later in life?
x2 on all accounts. Having suffered myself from a week long bout of Tinnitus I can tell you IT SUCKS!! Ever had your teeth drilled by a dentist? Imagine that tone... in your head 24/7, at piercing-loud levels. Worst thing is trying to get to sleep at night. I was lucky (very lucky) mine went away.

FWIW.... I got mine from listening to Yngwie and Symphony-X excessively loud on my HD580. Yes it does sound good, but IMHO its just as groovy and enjoyable at lower volumes.

I hope you take some of these warnings seriously, I and many others speak from experience. IEM damage should be the least of your worries.
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post #26 of 33
9/12/07 at 1:54am
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I don't like the "sound" of Tinnitus so I'll definitely take it easy and try not to listen too loud too long.I did a little decibel research and found some interesting info.
90 decibels would take 8 hours to cause hearing damage (busy street)
100 decibels = 8 hours serious damage (jack hammer)
120 decibels = Human pain threshold (rock concert)
150 jet takeoff at 50m = Rupture eardrums

By the looks of it going to a rock concert is far more likely to damage my hearing than listening to my headphones really loud and I sometimes feel at concerts that the music is just too loud and feel a little deaf after the concert.

I'm not saying that prolonged listening to loud volume earphones won't cause damage over time but in moderation it shouldn't be too dangerous though.

I do thank you all for really getting me thinking about this. I am sure I will be thinking more consciencly about how loud I am really listening .
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post #27 of 33
9/12/07 at 6:19am
lol well so say the least I must say I'm impressed that you've had good hearing for 20 years now. You must have some amazing ear drums.

I can't even imagine listening to my IEMs at above half of the iPod threshold. I mean seriously, above 3/4 and I'll feel my eardrums dying.

but yeah, I think I'd attribute your IEMs breaking to the high volume that you listen to music. Most IEMs aren't made to listen to music at full blast.

Also, maybe just curious, do you know the sound levels of your music? Perhaps the level of music you listen to is really low? I use mp3gain for my music and I notice that after changing it to 89dB music is a lot quieter.
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post #28 of 33
9/12/07 at 7:03am
yep it really is serious,iem's are more serious than you think,it may not seem as loud as something like a home system but it really is and much louder in some cases the fact that its so close to your eardrum means your going to get the whole lot of sound pressure killing your eardrums
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post #29 of 33
9/12/07 at 7:07am
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Originally Posted by elvendio View Post
I don't like the "sound" of Tinnitus so I'll definitely take it easy and try not to listen too loud too long.I did a little decibel research and found some interesting info.
90 decibels would take 8 hours to cause hearing damage (busy street)
100 decibels = 8 hours serious damage (jack hammer)
120 decibels = Human pain threshold (rock concert)
150 jet takeoff at 50m = Rupture eardrums

By the looks of it going to a rock concert is far more likely to damage my hearing than listening to my headphones really loud and I sometimes feel at concerts that the music is just too loud and feel a little deaf after the concert.

I'm not saying that prolonged listening to loud volume earphones won't cause damage over time but in moderation it shouldn't be too dangerous though.

I do thank you all for really getting me thinking about this. I am sure I will be thinking more consciencly about how loud I am really listening .
a heck of a lot of iem's reach well over 115db so id think that one over again,the guide is exactly that,its a guide,just because it says 8 hours at 90db or under is safe that dont mean 7 hours a day at that volume is safe,it adds and adds,when you rest your ears they dont repair,so the more you listen at high volume over time it does more and more damage over time
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post #30 of 33
9/12/07 at 12:16pm
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a heck of a lot of iem's reach well over 115db so id think that one over again,the guide is exactly that,its a guide,just because it says 8 hours at 90db or under is safe that dont mean 7 hours a day at that volume is safe,it adds and adds,when you rest your ears they dont repair,so the more you listen at high volume over time it does more and more damage over time
Very valid point. Furthermore, those guides are absolute nonsense and lead to some dangerous listening habits. You can damage your hearing at much lower decibel levels with far less exposure time. The OP mentioned earlier that your hearing is pretty good compared to "others your age". At age 36, you should have--at worst--a mild high frequency hearing loss. If that's all you have, you've been lucky...

Glad to hear that you're considering the volume you're listening to now, though! That was my only point and what you do is, of course, up to you.

Regards
El Duderino
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