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Auto focusing at f/1.8 is a PITA already! Actually, I found out today how much of a hassle hitting focus with only the center point as cross-type for the 6D was, even at f/6.3... Granted, I was shooting with a Sigma 105mm macro (the older version that has terrible AF), but still, I could not get that many sharp eyeballs with focus-recompose, and if I switched to a regular AF point, the stupid macro lens would rack focus, making me miss moments. Argh.

 

Managed to do a quick-and-dirty edit (about 10 minutes, a single pass through Portraiture, some cloning/heailing, and curves adjustments) with the JPEG down-res'd version of this shot:

 

 

Single 2' octabank (deep), shot with outer diffusion layer removed for a punchier look, around 35 degrees overhead, silver reflector for front-side fill, and a gridded bare reflector strobe for backside fill on the hair and back.

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Its really ridiculous.

Here's a little trick I learned, Tom. You know how to do frequency separation retouching in PS, right. Well, just take the blur layer and run it through portraiture. It should really even out the skin without excess smoothing. Then you can clone out blemishes in the texture layer manually.
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post  Its really ridiculous.

Here's a little trick I learned, Tom. You know how to do frequency separation retouching in PS, right. Well, just take the blur layer and run it through portraiture. It should really even out the skin without excess smoothing. Then you can clone out blemishes in the texture layer manually.


Mmm, yeah, I've tried that before; I always forget to do it, though, because I like the control I get out of choosing the kind of blur I do on the low frequency layer. A simple pass through Portraiture would definitely take care of a good number of things, though. Maybe it can be a first layer, and if the plugin smooths certain things out too much, I can paint it back on the layer mask. I definitely gotta start remembering to do it for edits I don't want to spend time on, though.

 

That shot, however, is probably getting the royal treatment. The real edit is going to take a good number of hours; I finally got a shot that is clean enough that it's actually worth cleaning up flyaways and misaligned hairs for, so this series of shots is going to get every trick in the Ps book thrown at it.

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Guys, if you use a softer lighting, retouching becomes something that is almost optional for most models.

 

Facial blemishes still require retouching to an extent.  I try to stay away from smoothing out the skin too much, frequency separation or not.

 

Happy shooting :wink:

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Originally Posted by Audioscope View Post
 

Guys, if you use a softer lighting, retouching becomes something that is almost optional for most models.

 

Facial blemishes still require retouching to an extent.  I try to stay away from smoothing out the skin too much, frequency separation or not.


It's not always preferable to use soft lighting, though. Of course, if a subject has poor skin texture and tone, then soft lighting would be the weapon of choice. Otherwise, it's a creative choice. Personally, I want to start experimenting with bare bulb reflector portraits because they're much more intense and contrasty.

 

Skin smoothing is essentially the same as putting on foundation in makeup. Not everyone has the luxury of having a dedicated MUA (who actually knows what they're doing). The thing about retouching is to do it suitably and measurably, fit for the right look and occasion.

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Granted, I was shooting with a Sigma 105mm macro (the older version that has terrible AF)

 

I had all kind of AF issues with Sigma 70 Macro and had to get rid of it.  A pity, since that lens was sharper than my Canon100L macro..

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Originally Posted by Jon L View Post  I had all kind of AF issues with Sigma 70 Macro and had to get rid of it.  A pity, since that lens was sharper than my Canon100L macro..


My problems were compounded with the fact that the 6D has crap AF for all but the center focus point. The 5D-IV better come out; while I've changed my stance on the MP wars (I like my resolution these days), I need good low light for street shooting at night, so the 5Ds/R is out of the question.

 

The old 100L macro was not very sharp, IIRC. Haven't tried the version II with hybrid IS, yet. However, I've been fiddling around with the macro mode on the 24-70 f/4L and it's not too bad, just fiddly. I do want to wait and see if Sigma updates their 105 macro, or if Samyang ever decides to go AF. I'd mostly be using the lens for portrait work, because I find the 135 focal length is slightly long for the distances that I like to work at, and the facial compression is already decent at ~100 mm focal lengths (200mm is overkill, IMHO, don't feel like running around all day with a 70-200). The Tamron 90mm VC looks mildly interesting too.

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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

 

The old 100L macro was not very sharp, IIRC. Haven't tried the version II with hybrid IS, yet. 

I have the version II.  Still, the Sigma 70 is sharper, insanely sharp.  

Yeah, the new 5Ds/r and likely 5D IV are not exactly going to excite many.  I'm pretty sure I'll skip one generation at least before replacing my 5D III.

At least Canon did good with the new 11-24 mm.  THAT is an awe-inspiring accomplishment for photography..

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Just a couple of experiments

 

 

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Love the perspective lines on the first shot, @LugBug1!

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