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post #1246 of 1719
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Anyone heard of or used this thing? Has really good reviews overall and looks super easy to get a great edge. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003IT5F14/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

Tired of dull knives.

Hmm, I don't know about that device.  It's probably good for scissors and tools, but it looks like it might eat up your good blades.  Have you considered the Spyderco or Lansky sharpening systems?  They are manual systems, but highly recommended.  I think Amazon carries both types.

post #1247 of 1719

I just went to amazon and searched knife sharpeners and went to the best reviewed one. 

post #1248 of 1719

I personally advocate hand sharpening on a stone. My fancy has been Arkansas stones for a while now. Two stones and a strop and I can shave anywhere I am.

 

I've known lots of people to like the sharpmaker, my friend picked up an EdgePro and really likes it. 

post #1249 of 1719

Ordered a new Benchmade Barrage 581 and McHenry & Williams 710-2. Hopefully should get them in on Thursday.

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Btw I re-thought my decision on sharpeners, and am giving the lansky deluxe a shot, decided 70$ for a sharpener with an electric motor that will probably burn out within 3 years, and has a tendency to round the tips of knives, wasnt worth it to me. Anyone know of a fantastic read for sharpening? Id love to be able to get a good consistent razor edge. 

post #1251 of 1719

I don't have any first hand experience, but this could have some useful info:  http://edcforums.com/threads/sharpening-links.48385/

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Ordered a new Benchmade Barrage 581 and McHenry & Williams 710-2. Hopefully should get them in on Thursday.

 

Both of those are amazing knives man. 

 

Here's whats on my desk currently. You never know when someone is gonna bust in thru the window trying to take my LCD-2's

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post #1253 of 1719
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Both of those are amazing knives man. 

 

Here's whats on my desk currently. You never know when someone is gonna bust in thru the window trying to take my LCD-2's

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I'm feeling some serious knife envy right now, especially for that SNG 

post #1254 of 1719
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Btw I re-thought my decision on sharpeners, and am giving the lansky deluxe a shot, decided 70$ for a sharpener with an electric motor that will probably burn out within 3 years, and has a tendency to round the tips of knives, wasnt worth it to me. Anyone know of a fantastic read for sharpening? Id love to be able to get a good consistent razor edge. 

I feel like almost everyone has got a different method for sharpening.  Some go for flat edges, some for convex, some do microbevels, or a combo of those. With freehand, you will inevitably get a convex edge, which some people think is tougher, but is hard to get right and refined.  Personally, I use the red and green DMT stones first at about ~20 degrees, sharpening as if I was trying to slice a layer off the stone, going from the tip down to the base of the blade.

 

 Then, for a razor edge, you need to strop you blade with a stretched piece of leather and a polishing abrasive compound like chrome oxide, jeweler's rouge, or mother's metal polish. For this, drag upwards, leading with the spine of the blade, at an angle slightly above the angle set for the stones. Don't use too much pressure while stropping though, or the strop will roll the edge upwards (I had this issue at first).  

 

Again everyone does it differently, but I can get a shaving edge reliably this way.

post #1255 of 1719
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I feel like almost everyone has got a different method for sharpening.  Some go for flat edges, some for convex, some do microbevels, or a combo of those. With freehand, you will inevitably get a convex edge, which some people think is tougher, but is hard to get right and refined.  Personally, I use the red and green DMT stones first at about ~20 degrees, sharpening as if I was trying to slice a layer off the stone, going from the tip down to the base of the blade.

 

 Then, for a razor edge, you need to strop you blade with a stretched piece of leather and a polishing abrasive compound like chrome oxide, jeweler's rouge, or mother's metal polish. For this, drag upwards, leading with the spine of the blade, at an angle slightly above the angle set for the stones. Don't use too much pressure while stropping though, or the strop will roll the edge upwards (I had this issue at first).  

 

Again everyone does it differently, but I can get a shaving edge reliably this way.

If only I had a leatherworker around here...Hate my small town. Ill try to see if I can find some leather around here, does grain size matter? Or are we looking for the smallest size grain possible?  Anyone had any luck with the super saphire hone? 

 

And whats dressing mean on a knife? 

post #1256 of 1719
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If only I had a leatherworker around here...Hate my small town. Ill try to see if I can find some leather around here, does grain size matter? Or are we looking for the smallest size grain possible?  Anyone had any luck with the super saphire hone? 

 

And whats dressing mean on a knife? 

grain size doesnt matter, as you want the underside of the leather for stropping (in order to retain the stropping compound). Old-school guys like to use an old stretched out leather belt, i just use a piece of leather I bought at Michaels that was stretched out and stapled to a block of wood.  Provided to can do it right with a leather belt under tension and remember not to put to much force into stropping the blade, you should be good. Just make sure you do a lot of light swipes. 

 

Sapphire hones, if I remember correctly are just ceramic hones.  For a razor edge, keep away from ceramics, they give a toothy edge thats good for cutting into soft things like food, but not so good as a working edge, because the "teeth" formed break off under excess stress, leaving you with a dull blade. Stropping leaves a much more refined and polished edge.

post #1257 of 1719

OKay so after trying the lansky system so far, its made me aggrovated. Read directions, found an old dull knife, and gave it a whirl, starting from the begining, set to 20* and started with extra course to ultra fine. And so far my results are disapointing at best. Its not even close to razor sharp, and cant even tear paper, let alone cut. What could i be doing wrong? It seems to be pretty darn sharp, or atleast a rough edge,  at the fine stone, but when I use the ceramic, it seemed to dull it quite a bit. 

post #1258 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Deathdeisel View Post

OKay so after trying the lansky system so far, its made me aggrovated. Read directions, found an old dull knife, and gave it a whirl, starting from the begining, set to 20* and started with extra course to ultra fine. And so far my results are disapointing at best. Its not even close to razor sharp, and cant even tear paper, let alone cut. What could i be doing wrong? It seems to be pretty darn sharp, or atleast a rough edge,  at the fine stone, but when I use the ceramic, it seemed to dull it quite a bit. 

 Sometimes an edge need to be reprofiled, nothing you did wrong. For example, when I sharpened my sebenza for the first time, it took a while to get past the convex grind they put on it (because they use belts), think of a seed shape, to get to the V grind of my sharpmaker. A little annoying but once I got it sorted it, sharpening and touchups are easy and painless. If I didn't read up on the sebenza edge, I doubt I would have known it was convex and needed to be ground down to a V before I'd notice anything actual sharpening, I would think I was doing it wrong and gone bananas. 

 

Maybe try a different degree?

post #1259 of 1719
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Originally Posted by Deathdeisel View Post

OKay so after trying the lansky system so far, its made me aggrovated. Read directions, found an old dull knife, and gave it a whirl, starting from the begining, set to 20* and started with extra course to ultra fine. And so far my results are disapointing at best. Its not even close to razor sharp, and cant even tear paper, let alone cut. What could i be doing wrong? It seems to be pretty darn sharp, or atleast a rough edge,  at the fine stone, but when I use the ceramic, it seemed to dull it quite a bit. 

 

You gotta reprofile it, meaning you have to set a 20 degree edge before you really sharpen the actual cutting edge of it. I think you're just wearing down the edges of the blade... 20 degrees is like kitchen knife thin so you really have to think about it. I do all mine at 30 degrees which still cuts hair. I also have the lansky sapphire somewhere around here, but all my edges are mirror polished as soon as the edge needs any sort of sharpening.

 

Heres some knife eye-candy for you too

 

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post #1260 of 1719

Just received my new Spyderco Manix 2 (lightweight translucent blue scales), and my initial reaction is "holy crap this thing is bigger than I expected."  Doesn't seem too practical as a true EDC knife (one that I would literally carry all the time to the office, little league games, and Red Robin for dinner with the kids), but definitely one that I'll bring when hiking, camping, etc.  Just not the type of knife that I would normally use to open an envelope, cut an orange, or clean my fingernails with lol.

 

Regardless of size, this thing is awesome.

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