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Anyone like to rip to FLAC w/ cue sheet and reburn?

post #1 of 25
8/24/07 at 10:11am
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I've done it with a few albums now, specifically with my Steve Hoffman release of Hotel California. I rip it to FLAC with EAC, use foobar2000 to generate a cue sheet, then burn it with CD text w/ Nero.

Now I can keep the original in pristine condition in a safe location, plus I have CD-text. Does anyone else like to do this?
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post #2 of 25
8/24/07 at 11:02am
I don't do this, but know of some others who do. Unless gapless is truly needed, I tend to create separate tracks.

For increasingly convenient use of DAPs or PMPs instead of CDs, breaking up the FLACs into separate tracks - per the cue sheet - is generally required. Not all of the FLAC-capable players can handle cue sheets and a single FLAC file.

- wader
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post #3 of 25
8/24/07 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by wader View Post
I don't do this, but know of some others who do. Unless gapless is truly needed, I tend to create separate tracks.

For increasingly convenient use of DAPs or PMPs instead of CDs, breaking up the FLACs into separate tracks - per the cue sheet - is generally required. Not all of the FLAC-capable players can handle cue sheets and a single FLAC file.

- wader
I use EAC to rip to gapless FLAC files, one FLAC file per track. Foobar2000 can take the individual FLAC tracks with gapless info, and create a cuesheet from them. Then you can reburn, with the only variation being the CD-Text added.
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post #4 of 25
8/24/07 at 11:09am
I'm continually engaged in the process that you've described. I have many albums that haven't been copied as yet though.

Note that you want to have a good scanner/reader. You also want a good burner and good media of course. Many CD and DVD drives are rather mediocre in these regards. If you wish to know more, I would recommend heading over to cdfreaks.com. I have a few drives, each of which serves a different purpose. Use Nero Speed to check the quality of your burned CDs. You can also test your burned DVDs as well the CDs/DVDs you bought in stores. The link to the software: http://www.cdspeed2000.com/
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post #5 of 25
8/24/07 at 11:12am
You do know EAC will create a non-compliant CUEsheet.

Hit F4 to detect gaps, then under actions create a CUEsheet[non-compliant].

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index....oncompliant.29
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post #6 of 25
8/24/07 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by Chri5peed View Post
You do know EAC will create a non-compliant CUEsheet.

Hit F4 to detect gaps, then under actions create a CUEsheet[non-compliant].

After I lost all my FLAC rips once before, I didn't have it create CUE sheets anymore the second time around. Then I fiddled around a bit with foobar2000 and Nero, and found out how brilliantly those two pieces of software can operate.
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post #7 of 25
8/24/07 at 11:26am
Really EACS non-compliant CUEs are better, they can't be made after the rip either.
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post #8 of 25
8/24/07 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by Redo View Post
I use EAC to rip to gapless FLAC files, one FLAC file per track. Foobar2000 can take the individual FLAC tracks with gapless info, and create a cuesheet from them. Then you can reburn, with the only variation being the CD-Text added.
Ah, sounded like you were ripping to a single file - my bad assumption. Yeah, that's a flexible system, similar to what I do (although, I admittedly don't care much about gapless for all my ripping, only specific pieces - for those, I create single files and later break them up as needed).

- wader
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post #9 of 25
8/24/07 at 11:29am
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Originally Posted by Chri5peed View Post
Really EACS non-compliant CUEs are better, they can't be made after the rip either.
Give it a run through on Foobar2000. Use the converter and "Convert to Album Images with with Cuesheets or Chapters". Then convert it to a wav file. If you ripped to FLAC correctly in the first place, the output will be perfect.
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post #10 of 25
8/25/07 at 6:54am
Has anyone tried copying a CD to individual FLACs plus EAC CUE, then re-burning it to see if the tracks and CD have the same CRC values?

This would be an ideal solution for me... It would be nice to be able to burn a perfect copy from separate files. I've ripped a few albums into single-file FLACs with CUEs, but of course that makes it difficult to queue up tracks from different albums.
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post #11 of 25
8/25/07 at 9:14am
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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony View Post
Has anyone tried copying a CD to individual FLACs plus EAC CUE, then re-burning it to see if the tracks and CD have the same CRC values.
I wondered this so...


Quote:
Originally Posted by New log
Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 2 from 28. July 2007

EAC extraction logfile from 15. October 2006, 13:02

Sepultura / Chaos A.D.

Used drive : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-800A Adapter: 0 ID: 0

Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction : 48
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
Used interface : Installed external ASPI interface
Gap handling : Appended to previous track

Used output format : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate : 320 kBit/s
Quality : High
Add ID3 tag : No
Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\Flac1.2\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -V -5 -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s


TOC of the extracted CD

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
---------------------------------------------------------
1 | 0:00.00 | 3:19.62 | 0 | 14986
2 | 3:19.62 | 4:47.40 | 14987 | 36551
3 | 8:07.27 | 2:55.00 | 36552 | 49676
4 | 11:02.27 | 4:27.33 | 49677 | 69734
5 | 15:29.60 | 3:43.45 | 69735 | 86504
6 | 19:13.30 | 3:33.25 | 86505 | 102504
7 | 22:46.55 | 1:52.47 | 102505 | 110951
8 | 24:39.27 | 4:59.10 | 110952 | 133386
9 | 29:38.37 | 3:42.50 | 133387 | 150086
10 | 33:21.12 | 4:49.55 | 150087 | 171816
11 | 38:10.67 | 3:59.20 | 171817 | 189761
12 | 42:10.12 | 4:58.70 | 189762 | 212181
13 | 47:09.07 | 5:12.33 | 212182 | 235614
14 | 52:21.40 | 3:47.15 | 235615 | 252654
15 | 56:08.55 | 4:48.07 | 252655 | 274261
16 | 60:56.62 | 8:42.23 | 274262 | 313434


Track 1

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Chri5\Desktop\New Folder (2)\01 - Refuse,Resist.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.00

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 6205010A
Copy CRC 6205010A
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 8) [C31E3393], AccurateRip returned [C2E6D4B2]
Copy OK

Track 2

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Chri5\Desktop\New Folder (2)\02 - Territory.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC ABADF4DF
Copy CRC ABADF4DF
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 8) [78B3D77A], AccurateRip returned [E8CE490C]
Copy OK

Track 3

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Chri5\Desktop\New Folder (2)\03 - Slave new world.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC E49437D3
Copy CRC E49437D3
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 8) [6D84AEAD], AccurateRip returned [835CF834]
Copy OK...



...Track 15

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Chri5\Desktop\New Folder (2)\15 - Territory (live).wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC E857E8CD
Copy CRC E857E8CD
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 3) [CEDCDFC1], AccurateRip returned [5C8148B1]
Copy OK

Track 16

Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Chri5\Desktop\New Folder (2)\16 - Amen,Inner self (live).wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:01.76

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 1FF6CFEB
Copy CRC 1FF6CFEB
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 3) [6A353156], AccurateRip returned [7AA82AA6]
Copy OK


No tracks could be verified as accurate
You may have a different pressing from the one(s) in the database

No errors occurred

End of status report

All the CRCs match each other, but not the original log CRCs. The bit in bold says you can't.
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post #12 of 25
8/25/07 at 11:19am
Darn... Still no perfect solution for both backup and playback.
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post #13 of 25
8/25/07 at 11:47am
I've done it for about 5 of my most treasured albums. I also scan the covers, spines, booklets, and reprint them. It's a relief
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post #14 of 25
8/27/07 at 4:59pm
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Originally Posted by Chri5peed View Post
Really EACS non-compliant CUEs are better, they can't be made after the rip either.
At the risk of sounding ridiculously naive--because I am about this stuff--can you please tell me how to do this (create a CUE sheet while using EAC to create indivdual track FLACs)?

Earlier this year I was converting my rather large CD collection (several thousand disks) to FLAC, and I was, I'd have sworn, creating the CUE sheets on the fly as I converted to individual track FLACs using EAC. But then I got sidetracked, and now that I've returned to the project, I can't remember how I was doing it!

Any help would be very much appreciated--thanks!
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post #15 of 25
8/27/07 at 5:44pm
Its in the guide, but...

Prior to ripping in EAC[put in CD]. Hit 'F4' to detect gaps[this takes 10-20seconds]
Go to Action > Create CUE Sheet > Multiple WAV Files With Gaps... (Noncompliant)[it asks you were to put it...]
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