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post #1351 of 1411
Man, this is exciting news! I still love my Sony A816. The perfect size for a frequent flier and the Denon C700s were so superb with it after I found the Koss tips through this thread. I sold off my Ety ER4Ps and I'll be selling my C700s to my dad who loved them with his iPod Classic.

Can't wait to get the C710s, but what's this talk of the cable sucking? Not the same great magic cable as on the C700s? I may have to make a new cable from my cryo'd 28Ga solid SPC, but the SPC has me a little concerned about the Denon C700 brightness coming out in the C710s.
post #1352 of 1411
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post
interesting reading
Haha I think soozieq is right, if you think the IE8 are an extravaganza, then wait till you hear the C710. I've seen some posts lately from two fellow headfiers, that indicates that the IE8 has a 'Romantic presentation'. I'm quite in agreement with that expression. The C710s are an attention grabber, They're more "head bobbing", "tap your feet" than the IE8 IMO.

@soozieq or cn11

The C710s I listened to weren't 'burned in' and had a bit more bass quantity than I'd have liked, although the bass impact was very welcomed. So am wondering if the bass has subsided after putting some good amount of hours on them. I recall the FX500 having quite a bit more bass weight right out of the box than they are now. How do the FX500 and C710 compare in terms of bass quantity at this point?
post #1353 of 1411
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Originally Posted by BoilermakerFan View Post
Can't wait to get the C710s, but what's this talk of the cable sucking?
Not the same great magic cable as on the C700s?
I may have to make a new cable from my cryo'd 28Ga solid SPC, but the SPC has me a little concerned about the Denon C700 brightness coming out in the C710s.
Lol, well I do think it's sucky in comparison with the C700s. If magic elves made the magic C700 cable, then the devil's spawn had a hand or three in the C710

It's thinner and less 'obedient' than the C700 cable, although now that I've found the chin slider, I don't cry as much anymore!!! But I really did like the C700 cable, it was one of the best I've used, and it would have been nice to have had something equal to it with the C710. But... I've had much worse cables and survived, and really, the Denons sound so nice that I'm prepared to live with the cable. At least it's nothing like Sony cables...

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Originally Posted by HONEYBOY View Post
@soozieq or cn11

The C710s I listened to weren't 'burned in' and had a bit more bass quantity than I'd have liked, although the bass impact was very welcomed. So am wondering if the bass has subsided after putting some good amount of hours on them. I recall the FX500 having quite a bit more bass weight right out of the box than they are now. How do the FX500 and C710 compare in terms of bass quantity at this point?
Hey HB... to my ears, the C710 bass is not quite as 'hefty' as the FX500 was after burn in. I had to reduce the bass on the Sony X with the JVC but I haven't had to do that with the C710. And I MUCH prefer the C710 vocals to the JVC. I found them too distant and a little 'cool' with the JVC, but the Denon vocals are just right
post #1354 of 1411
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Originally Posted by soozieq View Post

Hey HB... to my ears, the C710 bass is not quite as 'hefty' as the FX500 was after burn in. I had to reduce the bass on the Sony X with the JVC but I haven't had to do that with the C710. And I MUCH prefer the C710 vocals to the JVC. I found them too distant and a little 'cool' with the JVC, but the Denon vocals are just right
This is what I wanted to hear and also not what I wanted to hear haha. I'll just have to get them sooner that I had promised myself. I wanted to listen to every song on my X in their entirety with the FX500 before getting the C710. I've been too guilty of upgrading without knowing what I actually owned lol. Oh I also preferred the C710 vocals to the FX500; more upfront, fuller sounding and coherent.
post #1355 of 1411
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Originally Posted by HONEYBOY View Post
This is what I wanted to hear and also not what I wanted to hear haha. I'll just have to get them sooner that I had promised myself. I wanted to listen to every song on my X in their entirety with the FX500 before getting the C710. I've been too guilty of upgrading without knowing what I actually owned lol. Oh I also preferred the C710 vocals to the FX500; more upfront, fuller sounding and coherent.
I'd say this applies to the mids overall with the C710. It lends a more coherent feel across the frequency band when compared to the FX500... and makes everything seem more 'joined up', and just right sounding. The FX500's make you notice the highs and the deep lows in a more pronounced manner, while the Denons are just smoooooooothhhhh....
post #1356 of 1411
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Originally Posted by soozieq View Post
Chris, the Denons go so well with the Sony. I always found the IE8/Sony match very very warm, too warm for me in the end - and the Denons just seem to synergise so well with the X. The vocals have perfect placement for me, and you know how fussy I am about where the vocals are, lol!!
You have had a trying time finding good vocal placement, I know! Glad you're finding them placed properly this time... it's cool to hear this new offering from Denon, and hear the improvements over the C700. It's very telling when I swap back to the C700, and everything just seems shoved way back toward the back of my head in placement... not just vocals, everything!
post #1357 of 1411
Sold my C700s to my dad and pre-ordered my C710s from B&H Photo, so now the wait begins for them to arrive in stock. Thanks for the comparisons to the C700s everyone.
post #1358 of 1411
Well, talk about being late to the game!
After reading this very useful thread time and again but having previously been happy with my ETY ER6i's I thought I had found perfection in them..Till last weekend!

I was over visiting friends on Vancouver Island, one of the is a hifi nut like me and took me over to his local hifi store. Whilst browsing I spied the C700's.

I was chatting to the store owner and he was raving about them as well. Well, after finding out they were almost 60% off the list price I did the impulse purchase thing!

Well, tracks that were unlistenable on the ETY's (Shelby Lynns incredible tribute album to Dusty Springfield, just a little lovin) I found even after having the Ety's replaced for a fault on them that certain tracks on this immaculately recorded album broke up at lower frequencies. Just as on Alanis Morisettes the prayer cycle-mercy track!

I plugged in the Denons fresh out of the box and my jaw dropped! Shelbys voice was liquid spun gold, non of the braking up that i got with the Ety's, tight tight juicy bass, amazing mids and crystaline treble. I went to the alanis track, deep, solid strong bass and amazing vocals, I have never heard Alanis's voice sound so amazing!

Now, a week has passed. I have put just over 20 hours on these amazing headphones and the sound has even greater resolution, details I had never heard before are there for the listening, textures are tangible and the sense of emotion conveyed palpable.

These headphones are up there with the best of the best. I have had in the past stax, grado and am now using AKG K701's at home and they compare amazingly with those, I can't think of higher praise.

Having now listen'd to these Denons for a few hours I would say that even if they were not on sale they would be worth it at the full price!

Reading the reviews of the 751 I am not dissapointed in not getting the latest version, the cable on the 700 is something else and I would tade that for extension cables and a carrying case any day. I have a spare case any way so that is covered and one of my greatest pet peeves with phones is tangly cable..Now a thing of the past for Denon C700 users.

I am sure there are phones out there that trounce this one.. I have a feeling at much greater cost though.I am happy! In fact if there is still the one remaining pair left when I go back next month I may just get them and keep them in the box till these expire!

Thanks so much Soozieq for the excellent, accurate review and to all the other good folks who contributed!

Oh yes, for reference. Portable set up is, itouch 8g 2nd gen, tunes are from cd ripped to iTunes at the highest rate and then transfered lossless to my touch. I occasionally use a mint tin amp from an ebay seller in Germany(can't remember his name now it was a few years ago!) and interconnect is Kimber

I must admit that I find no difference in using the amp so rarely use it, the I touch seems to generate more than enough power to the phones!
post #1359 of 1411
Thread Starter 
Hello,

Glad you're loving them so much. They were the first phones that kept me happy for almost a year!! The cable itself was worth all my love and kisses lol

In fact, I chose them over the Shure E500, mainly because they played better with my Sony dap than the Shures. I think HONEYBOY preferred them to the Shures too if I remember.

It took a long time for me to move on to something else (the Triple.fi 10) which is testament to how much i liked the C700s. Now I have the C710 with their non-magic cable made by gremlins... but the sound is great, so I'm not complaining... much
post #1360 of 1411
Awesome thread....i think i just made up my mind regarding the Denon AH-C751
post #1361 of 1411
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Awesome thread....i think i just made up my mind regarding the Denon AH-C751
Good now don't read anymore thread and stay as far as you can from this place haha
I had great fun with the denons when I really liked them haha
post #1362 of 1411
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Originally Posted by ViKiD™ View Post
Awesome thread....i think i just made up my mind regarding the Denon AH-C751
You can get the Denon C-710s for $100 from B&H Photo so why did you choose the C-751s over the new C-710s?

My C-710s are burning in nicely and I prefer their sound over the C-700/C-751s.
post #1363 of 1411
After 1 and a half years I'm still using the C751 with my trusty A816 DAP. Talk about an old and loyal timer!

And I don't have any plan to upgrade my portable setup for at least a few months ahead. For curiosity's sake, does the C710 present a large improvement from the C700/C751?
post #1364 of 1411
well its different

some consider an improvement i think its not
post #1365 of 1411
Curious. Can you elaborate further on that, Mark?
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