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post #91 of 103
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Originally Posted by Bootleg View Post
"My name is stevenkelby...and I am a bass-head."

Gallery: "Welcome stevenkelby"

Yeah I guess so. But isn't the first step to admit you have a problem?

I don't admit I have a problem!

I really don't want the bass louder than the rest and I get chills from sweet treble more often than bass. The level control knob on my big sub is set to about 10% so it matches the level of the main speakers and only adds to the depth, not volume. Thats why I bought the sub, it was the cheapest one I could find that went all the way down cleanly. I don't need or use hardly and of it's power.

My car just has one 12" in a sealed box.

Another thing, I never find the ED9 bass tiring or head-ache inducing, even after 6 - 8 hours. Some cars with big ported subs are fun for about 2 minutes then they just give you a headache.

Did you find the ED9 bass tiring or just loud (boomy?)
post #92 of 103
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Did you find the ED9 bass tiring or just loud (boomy?)
Didn't listen for long enough for it to get tiring...at most it was 45 minutes.

Further, I typically listen at moderate to low volumes as compared to some of the apple ibud wearing interns that work at my office.

For the record, the "bass-head" thing was not a slam...I just thought it was funny.

Sonic memory is poor, and I do not have a pair of Ed9's in front of me to re-verify, but the notes I took from the listening session said "boomy" and I'm sticking with it.

By the way, I also think the Denon D5000's are a smidge "boomy" and they are my favorite cans.
post #93 of 103
Fair enough.

No worries with the comment, I never, ever get offended online, and rarely in real life .

What were you listening to? Music and source wise?
post #94 of 103
I did listen to the D5000 and to me, THESE are basshead phones. The bass is prominent, it's obvious from the first 10 seconds. On top of that, it's warm bass, but I don't mean it as only positive adjective... Coming from the K701 and to some extent the 650s (when properly driven), the bass of the D5000 is nowhere near tight enough for me.

So Bootleg, please get a chance to listen to the Ed9 again, with some good quality recording this time And pay attention to the fit of the headphones, I could surely call the Ed9 a basshead phone if it's not worn properly...

Ok, I feel like I am beating a dead horse here. Time will be better spent ENJOYING music than debatting endlessly here .

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Originally Posted by Bootleg View Post
Didn't listen for long enough for it to get tiring...at most it was 45 minutes.

Further, I typically listen at moderate to low volumes as compared to some of the apple ibud wearing interns that work at my office.

For the record, the "bass-head" thing was not a slam...I just thought it was funny.

Sonic memory is poor, and I do not have a pair of Ed9's in front of me to re-verify, but the notes I took from the listening session said "boomy" and I'm sticking with it.

By the way, I also think the Denon D5000's are a smidge "boomy" and they are my favorite cans.
post #95 of 103
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Time will be better spent ENJOYING music than debating endlessly here .
Amen! But wait...if we all adhered to this simple and true statement, there would be no posts on Head-Fi!!!
post #96 of 103
It is stated that the drivers of the 750 and 9 are the same. So you are paying 3 times the price for the enclosure that changes the sound some do to accoustical effect. Well I have seen the drivers in my home speakers, which cost a couple of thousand in speakers that cost 3 times as much but I don't think the other speakers sounded any better.. . . well. .. I like the way the 750's curl up, great for the traveling I have to do but the 9's are sexy and have that neat aluminum box that would get crushed in traveling.

What earpads fit on the 750's? Can other pads be used?
post #97 of 103
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
It is stated that the drivers of the 750 and 9 are the same. So you are paying 3 times the price for the enclosure that changes the sound some do to accoustical effect. Well I have seen the drivers in my home speakers, which cost a couple of thousand in speakers that cost 3 times as much but I don't think the other speakers sounded any better.. . . well. .. I like the way the 750's curl up, great for the traveling I have to do but the 9's are sexy and have that neat aluminum box that would get crushed in traveling.

What earpads fit on the 750's? Can other pads be used?
I really and strongly suggest you, that you hold your final word and judgement, till you hear both side by side...
I used to think that same way, and i think that the same happen to many others, and we could not be more wrong...All the members who had heard the PROLines, and later on the Editions, orboth at the same time, had agreed that the difference is sound is noticeable since the first second you put them on your head...

About the pads, all of them will fit, the yhave the same lock, but not all of them will sound the same, as each PROLine need to use the pads that go with the model, and all are different from each other, the height is different. BTW there is a huge thread discussing that, and there was also a link to a japaneese website, posted by a member here, in which some guys did some comparisons exchanging the pads and measuring the heapdhones, the graphs are there, to show the differences, so they are also measurable and noticeable...
post #98 of 103
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Originally Posted by Sovkiller View Post
I really and strongly suggest you, that you hold your final word and judgement, till you hear both side by side...
I used to think that same way, and i think that the same happen to many others, and we could not be more wrong...All the members who had heard the PROLines, and later on the Editions, orboth at the same time, had agreed that the difference is sound is noticeable since the first second you put them on your head...

About the pads, all of them will fit, the yhave the same lock, but not all of them will sound the same, as each PROLine need to use the pads that go with the model, and all are different from each other, the height is different. BTW there is a huge thread discussing that, and there was also a link to a japaneese website, posted by a member here, in which some guys did some comparisons exchanging the pads and measuring the heapdhones, the graphs are there, to show the differences, so they are also measurable and noticeable...
They are different, yes.
post #99 of 103
|I want to bump this review thread it was VERY helpful to me.
Greetings, Anouk,
post #100 of 103
Me too... I don´t know why I haven´t went through the entire thread before just read the review. As for Ed 9 well I have the cheap made in taiwan ED 9 PRO 900. As for bass yes it extends quite a bit further then the DX 1000 and it´s audible for my ears... Where the DX 1000 just go out with a bang the PRO 900 continues down and with melody where the DX 1000 just outputs the same note. Maybe there is some bass hump that just drown the lower frequencies? You can just about hint them often though but sometimes you really need to hear the 900 first to be sure.

Which one that has better bass really depends on the the song. I really like that the DX 1000 is never ever vibrating and it has a very nice tone with bass guitars and such. PRO 900 being more detailed and goes deeper but the DX 1000 somehow have more expensive bass so to speak and for most music enough extension

Have a hard time figuring out what I like more. I was once dead certain that the DX 1000 was my classical, jazz headphone but as of late I don´t know any longer. It has so much power it made my KeeS modded my PRO 900 it just sounded to bright and thin lacking body so back at stock now without cotton wool. DX 1000 still having more impact so to speak while still being quite smooth.. 900 have significantly more bass then the 750 but not as much as the HD 650/DX 1000. At least it appears that way may just be the treble which gets more space on the 900 with better extension that make it appear less bassy for classical. Larger soundstage than the 750 so more laid back and less forward in stock anyway. Even the DX 1000 seems slightly more forward as well. PRO 900 actually competes with the DX 1000 in size of the soundstage. It´s still not as big as the K701 but it´s deeper than the DX 1000 but maybe not quite as wide with better separation between instruments and more out of head experiences then the DX 1000 gives me. More noticable in movies then music though. Soundstage is really something both excels at.

However as of late it all seems to melt together and sound more and more the same. PRO 900 not appearing that weak anymore and the DX 1000 not having all the fanfare I remember. Maybe my ears are getting numb after to much listening or I am just getting to used to the DX 1000. It´s to the point I don´t know which headphone are on my head any longer I find myself feeling if it´s wooden cups or not . So comfort is absolutely a non issue for both. I loved the leather feel of the DX 1000 but now I am taking that for granted too

PRO 900 seem to have a more even response and is overall brighter. It still does feel like it has less power then the DX 1000. DX 1000 sounds more expensive really it´s sound signature matches it´s appearance perfectly. I guess it´s something with the colouration from the wood that does that and the fact it does always sound solid and give a wholehearted performance . Can be hurtful at times though but not often. Sometimes with piano the DX 1000 puts your head inside the piano and let someone hammer on the tangent to give you a tinnitus tone. Not often though. Have quite a kick not just in bass but overall so seem to move more air then the PRO 900 at the same SPL levels.

Otherwise it does bass guitars great and most real instruments with power. Piano as mentioned it does okay about on par with K701 but not as good as the PRO 900.
post #101 of 103
Oh might add that is for classical... Listening to Metallica or rock there is a homerun for the PRO 900 in term of bass. The better definition and speed really pays off here
post #102 of 103
It was a great review. I can say as a Denon D2000 owner and fan that the OP reviewed them quite honestly and fairly. I have an upgraded cable that I believe improves the soundstage, but otherwise I think the review was spot on. I was thinking about DX1000's at some point, but I am interested in hearing the Edition 9's now after reading this review.
post #103 of 103
Don´t forget the PRO 900. Built from what they learned with the ED 9. I know at least two that likes it better then ED 9 too and it´s way cheaper .
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