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post #61 of 64
8/25/07 at 10:18pm
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Originally Posted by bowraboy View Post
So Beresford built a DAC that looks pretty much exactly the same as a TEC. Or is it the other way around?
I think this question was asked a year or so ago. If I remember correctly, it's a partnership on the DAC with a design from Beresford. TEC has very wide range of products if you look at their site. The DAC is however technically well ahead of anything else that they do and doesn't fit in with their normal pattern of in-house technical expertise. The TC-7510 sticks out like a sore thumb in their range, which underlines the notion that it is not their own normal line of business production wise. So they are obviously making it for someone else, and also selling it under their own brand amounts their own customer base. I wouldn't call this a unique situation, since many companies have such arrangements product wise. It is however a practise that customers are offered a choice of case styles to choose from when it is an exclusive factory design.
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post #62 of 64
8/25/07 at 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by Herandu View Post
I think this question was asked a year or so ago. If I remember correctly, it's a partnership on the DAC with a design from Beresford. TEC has very wide range of products if you look at their site. The DAC is however technically well ahead of anything else that they do and doesn't fit in with their normal pattern of in-house technical expertise. The TC-7510 sticks out like a sore thumb in their range, which underlines the notion that it is not their own normal line of business production wise. So they are obviously making it for someone else, and also selling it under their own brand amounts their own customer base. I wouldn't call this a unique situation, since many companies have such arrangements product wise. It is however a practise that customers are offered a choice of case styles to choose from when it is an exclusive factory design.
Thanks for helping to clear up my confusion.

That's basically the reply I got from the Beresford. They're the same DAC.

It's just previously you seemed to be saying that the TEC is inferior to the Beresford.
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post #63 of 64
8/25/07 at 10:44pm
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Originally Posted by bowraboy View Post
Thanks for helping to clear up my confusion.

That's basically the reply I got from the Beresford. They're the same DAC.

It's just previously you seemed to be saying that the TEC is inferior to the Beresford.
When I tried an earlier version of both their DAC after someone bought me a TEC in the US as a present, I had a look inside and the Beresford had a few different capacitors. They also sounded different. Again, that is not a unique situation. The 1st Meridian CD player was a visually modified Philips unit with a number of different brand of capacitors. I couldn't comment on any current TEC DAC since I haven't seen the inside of any other than the one I had. I actually sold it on to someone on head-fi as it happens.
Not that any of this bothers me. The basic DAC section is I think far more capable than the audio output and the headphone amp. I am actually trying to design my own audio output and headphone amp to mount over the existing PCB and tap into the DAC output just to see what else I can get out of it. If it works on my breadboard, I shall probably do a quick and dirty PCB using veroboard. I don't expect credits from any PCB layout purist, but I am only doing it for fun after all.
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post #64 of 64
8/25/07 at 10:54pm
I bought a TEC from Taiwan & it was a TEC TC-7510 version IV.

This started me wondering because the Beresford was a version IV at that time.

Know I get it.

Even though the TC-7510 was more detailed I preferred my modified DAC-AH.

Know I prefer the Constantine to both.
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